[sdiy] Why dual grounds? (LEDs)
Oren Leavitt
obl64 at ix.netcom.com
Wed Jun 9 23:35:40 CEST 2010
David G. Dixon wrote:
>>> Since many of the modular synth standard power supply connectors
>>> (MOTM, Oakley, Blacet etc) have two ground wires, is one of these
>>> used for a "clean" ground and the other "dirty ?
>> No. Usually, both ground pins are shorted. This is true for all
>> MOTM, Tellun, Blacet, Patchell and Ruberto boards I've seen.
>>
>> On Oakley boards, all signal and power ground traces go to the
>> ground pin that's on the +15 V side. The ground pin on the -15 V
>> side is only used to ground the sleeve contacts of the jacks. It's
>> not clean vs. dirty or signal vs. power, it's frame ground vs.
>> everything-else-ground.
>
> Why? Ground loops?
>
>> More modules should use the 6-pin power connector and power LEDs
>> etc. off the +5 V line. If nothing else, it would mitigate the
>> derating of the power supply caused by asymmetrical loads (most
>> modules draw more current from the positive rail).
>
> Most schematics I've seen specify current-limiting resistors for LEDs which
> are too small. I typically use at least 2.2k for an LED powered off of a
> 15V rail, while most schematics specify 1k. My LEDs are plenty bright, and
> draw less than half the power. Of course, I tend to use blinking lights
> fairly sparingly...
>
True - I think that is a holdover from a time when LEDs were not as
efficient as they are are now. Modern red/green LEDs are quite bright at
even 5 mA of current.
- Oren
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