[sdiy] AM8060 - Jupiter 6 SVF
rob at emulatorarchive.com
rob at emulatorarchive.com
Sun Jun 6 12:50:01 CEST 2010
Hi
The IR3109 in SMD form has been replicated using LM13700 SMD chips in
the Analog Rennaissance 80017A replacement for the Juno106.
In particular the expo response was carefully analysed, which is
obviously an important charcteristic. Other clones such as the Synth
Restore version probably use the same approach.
If you go back to the introduction of the IR3109 in the Jupiter 4 mid
production in 1981, you can see it replaces 4x BA662 OTA chips in the
original 1978 version. The external circuitry is similar in both
filters, the IR3109 is a set of matched 4x BA662 chips on one die. The
BA662 OTA filter in the Jupiter 4 is based on the CA3080 version in the
Roland 700, and you can see the 4 pole OTA filter in Rolands mono synths
from 1978 - 1981. The Oakley COTA filter is a replica of this design
using LM13700 chips. It would be interesting to know how similar in
sound the COTA and SH-1 filters are.
The resonance feedback loop is usally via a BA662 on the polyphonic
designs, but in mono synths it is a simple potentiometer with two diodes
acting as voltage limiters preventing feedback runaway. The JP-6 SVF
makes use of this diode voltage limiter in the 2nd 2-pole OTA feedback
stage. Roland certainly had problems with clipping at high resonance in
Unison mode with the IR3109 and introduced the IR3R05 into the MKS80
REV5 to address this.
So of course its possible to use LM13700 or BA6110 OTA chips to build
the JP-6 SVF. And I have a BA6110 version on the way.
Will they sound and respond the same? With care around the expo CV
circuits for frequency and resonance, probably.
Regards - Rob
www.amsynths.co.uk
Paul Dhillon Weber wrote:
> Has the IR3109 been sufficiently documented/reversed engineered to support
> replication with OTAs (LM13700) in a manner similar to analysis surrounding,
> say, the unique sounding SSM2040? I am thinking of the various discrete
> approaches by Schmitz and MOTM and lately, Hearn.
>
> That would be interesting.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 6/5/10 12:05 PM, "Aaron Lanterman" <lanterma at ece.gatech.edu> wrote:
>
>
>> On May 29, 2010, at 1:38 PM, rob at emulatorarchive.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi SDIYers,
>>> I have just completed a recreation of the 4-pole State Variable Filter from
>>> the Roland Jupiter 6 using a Boss Phaser pedal as the source of components.
>>> The details are on this web page, along with pictures and samples of the
>>> completed FracRac module. The filter sounds a lot better than the old phaser,
>>> and the 3 modes of BP, HP and LP all with self oscillating resonance makes
>>> for a versatile and great sounding filter.
>>>
>>> http://www.amsynths.co.uk/Filter_Bank2/AM8060/am8060.html
>>>
>> Nice work!
>>
>> I bet it wouldn't be too hard to replace the custom IR3109 Roland chips with
>> LM13700s and some usual expo converters... I might do it once I get through
>> the 10 unfinished projects I have going on... ;)
>>
>> - Aaron
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