[sdiy] Analog division

cheater cheater cheater00 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 19 20:36:51 CEST 2010


Actually I think you need XOR? Ah, my gate brain is currently off. I'm
sure there's *some* gate that can do it ;-)

D.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 20:35, cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Olivier,
> you can only take logarithms of positive numbers, so it wouldn't work
> without modifications. However you can rectify each signal and extract
> the sign with a comparator, then multiply them with e.g. an AND gate,
> and apply that to the output. Then you should be fine, I think.
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 20:13, Olivier Gillet <ol.gillet at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is also what I was thinking about... If you look at the upper
>> part of the schematics in the Mike Irwin article, you'll see that one
>> of the nodes of the circuit outputs a voltage proportional to log(V_in
>> / Vcc).
>>
>> Using exp ( log a - log b ) = a / b, maybe it would be worth trying
>> using two servo VCA+Op-amp cells like that, one of them into an
>> inverter, then a summer the result into the CV input (or are the CV
>> input of the SSM2164 summing nodes?)  of another SSM2164 with a
>> constant input - this VCA playing this time the role of an exponential
>> current source. And a final op-amp to convert the output current into
>> a voltage.
>>
>> Would this work on four quadrants? Probably not, that's the tricky part!
>>
>> Straightforward, random, and probably wrong idea :D
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:50 PM, David G. Dixon
>> <dixon at interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:
>>>> I'm thinking of the SSM2164 as well... it looks like it could go
>>>> in an opamp feedback loop.
>>>
>>> That's how we "linearize" it, actually.
>>>
>>> I've used two linearized 2164 VCAs (which means all four VCAs on the chip)
>>> to make a very nice four-quadrant multiplier.  It's very straightforward.
>>> I'm not sure about division -- never given it much thought I'm afraid.
>>>
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