[sdiy] Monosynth features poll

cheater cheater cheater00 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 26 15:06:32 CET 2010


Rather than the randomness, it's about the immediate feedback between
what my ears hear and what my fingers feel (the physical position of
the key and vibration from the mechanism of the key)

The fact that the scanner makes the gate digital (on/off) and usually
adds a debouncing treshold removes a big part of this.

The minuscule delay from slow scanning circuits is another thing that
removes even more of the tangibility of sounds created with the
keyboard.

Midi is terrible.

All those three points prove to me that 'instant' is light years away
from 'almost instant'. Maybe if the scanner worked at a 10 mhz rate...

BTW, you don't need to slow down your scanner to make velocity work..
just think about it.

D.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 14:52, Tom Wiltshire <tom at electricdruid.net> wrote:
> I see. A bit of random gate bouncing adding a certain something to the
> leading edge of the envelope, I suppose.
>
> There might be some delay issues too. I don't know, but I suspect that many
> uP-scanned keyboards don't respond that fast. The Prophet T8 (a top end
> instrument) scans its keyboard every millisecond, but only because it
> measures velocity. The 1980's wisdom seems to have been that anything under
> 20mS isn't perceptible and therefore doesn't matter. A simple gate direct
> from the keyboard is going to be faster to respond.
>
> T.
>
> On 26 Jan 2010, at 12:57, cheater cheater wrote:
>
>> I like the direct access between the VCA and the
>> resistance/scratchiness/debouncing of the leaf contacts. Without that
>> it's like playing guitar in woolen mittens.
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 13:43, Tom Wiltshire <tom at electricdruid.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 26 Jan 2010, at 11:42, cheater cheater wrote:
>>>
>>>> The most important feature of an 80s monosynth is the jwire keyboard.
>>>> Please no scanning circuits. Use scanning circuits for something more
>>>> appropriate like the buttons on your fridge.
>>>
>>> These aren't either/or, are they?
>>> The Pro-One has both; a j-wire keyboard scanned by a uP.
>>> Anyway, what's the problem with scanning circuits? It's a sensible enough
>>> way to do it, and gives you flexibility about keyboard modes,
>>> arpeggiators,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> Now if you'd complained about rubber keyboard contacts, that's a
>>> different
>>> story. Scanned or not, they're a pain.
>>>
>>> T.
>>>
>>>
>
>



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