[sdiy] Substitute for pin matrixes?

Sun Jan 24 20:30:14 CET 2010

Harry,
thanks a lot for your email.

Is this the 'linear slope' plug that you mean?
http://www.thebroadcastshop.com/images/connectors/35hdxxx.jpg

Is this the slope that changes between 'linear' and 'rounded' slope
1/8" plugs? Marked in red:
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1374/slope.gif

I was unable to find a picture of an 1/8" plug with a 'rounded slope'.

Thanks
D.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 20:10, Harry Bissell <harrybissell at wowway.com> wrote:
> Sorry no photos...
>
> Switchcraft 1/8" jacks have a linear slope on the back side of the tip. ~other~ jacks
> have a rounded slope. If you plug an ~other~ plug into a Switchcraft jack, it will be loose
> and not connect well. If you plug a Switchcraft plug into an ~other~ jack, it will permanently
> spring the jack, ruining it.
>
> I did a lot of damage to a MiniModular with Switchcraft plugs, until I learned this.
>
> There is some difference between Metric plugs and Switchcraft pluge, the Switchcraft are true
> 1/8" diameter.
>
> H^) harry
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>
> To: karl dalen <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>
> Cc: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> Sent: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:44:09 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Substitute for pin matrixes?
>
> Karl, yes, google can't find them. Can you find them, Karl? Can you?
> Please do it, for me, Karl. One photo of each that shows the
> differences between japanese and rounded plugs. Just for us, Karl.
>
> D.
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 19:34, karl dalen <dalenkarl at yahoo.se> wrote:
>> They are basically everywhere!
>>
>> Google dont understand search words that existed before Google it self!
>>
>> Its really spooky!
>>
>> japanese plugs are defined by their angled/slope
>>  between tip and first ring.
>>
>> KD
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Den sön 2010-01-24 skrev cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Från: cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>
>>> Ämne: Re: [sdiy] Substitute for pin matrixes?
>>> Till: "karl dalen" <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>
>>> Kopia: "Magnus Danielson" <magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org>, synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>> Datum: söndag 24 januari 2010 22.58
>>> Have you got a photo of those
>>> 'japanese' and 'rounded' minijack plugs?
>>>
>>> A google search for japanese minijack plugs came up with
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>> D.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 18:53, karl dalen <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Mini jack are not crap, the problem are that people
>>> mix rounded
>>> > plugs and Japanese jacks, then the jack go ape, if one
>>> takes
>>> > a japanese plug an insert it into a rounded jack
>>> nothing goes
>>> > ape it just becomes slightly firmer in the seating.
>>> >
>>> > The difference are the japanese has figured out how
>>> > to make a universal plug that dont fuck up the jacks.
>>> >
>>> > The problem doepfer had back in the 90'es was just
>>> this he mixed
>>> > Japanese plugs with Cliff's wrongly engineered
>>> jacks.Cliff even
>>> > have a special plug that they want peole to buy for
>>> these jacks
>>> > if you insert on of their plugs into any other jack it
>>> will break!
>>> >
>>> > So the advice are, dont buy anything else then the
>>> Japanese
>>> > standard and you will be fine.
>>> >
>>> > KD
>>> >
>>> > --- Den sön 2010-01-24 skrev cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> >> Från: cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>
>>> >> Ämne: Re: [sdiy] Substitute for pin matrixes?
>>> >> Till: "Magnus Danielson" <magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org>
>>> >> Kopia: "karl dalen" <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>,
>>> synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>> >> Datum: söndag 24 januari 2010 16.00
>>> >> What are you talking about? My silver
>>> >> cape and red spandex suit DOES
>>> >> make me the coolest in the gig!
>>> >>
>>> >> Minijack plugs are crap because the edge of the
>>> metal
>>> >> connecting to
>>> >> the standoff plastic ring is not rounded. If you
>>> can find a
>>> >> rounded
>>> >> one, sort of like 'long frame' plugs:
>>> >> http://switchcraft.com/products/jack-123.html
>>> >> then you're better off than usual. But neither
>>> Switchcraft
>>> >> nor Neutrik
>>> >> makes such, with good reason - minijacks are not
>>> meant for
>>> >> lots of
>>> >> cycles. So the question is why not use normal long
>>> frame
>>> >> jacks? The
>>> >> answer is going to be "space" or "cost" or "space
>>> and
>>> >> cost". If
>>> >> someone's bothered about the space, get a he can
>>> pin
>>> >> matrix, if he's
>>> >> bothered about the cost then he isn't going to get
>>> good
>>> >> repeatability
>>> >> anyways, and if he's bothered about space AND cost
>>> then he
>>> >> has a
>>> >> problem, but he can always get a job and earn
>>> enough to buy
>>> >> a proper
>>> >> pinhole matrix. This is in fact the most
>>> cost-effective
>>> >> solution! :P
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> D.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:27, Magnus Danielson
>>> >> <magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > karl dalen wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Fuse holders in an array? What do you
>>> think of
>>> >> that!! :-)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Or automatic fuses, blast 10A, fuse
>>> goes,
>>> >> >> current disappears, fuses resets.
>>> >> >>  Blowable matrix a new musical concept!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If you make the VCO and Generator synonymous,
>>> let the
>>> >> VCA be a transductor
>>> >> > etc. etc. you can have great fun with power,
>>> but
>>> >> balanced signals would
>>> >> > naturally be three-phase. Don't forget the
>>> spark-gaps
>>> >> and knife-edge
>>> >> > switches! :) Maybe at last the synth player
>>> would be
>>> >> coolest in the gig...
>>> >> > prof nutty running his lab of mad science!
>>> :D
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cheers,
>>> >> > Magnus
>>> >> >
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