[sdiy] Substitute for pin matrixes?

Sun Jan 24 20:10:34 CET 2010

Sorry no photos...

Switchcraft 1/8" jacks have a linear slope on the back side of the tip. ~other~ jacks
have a rounded slope. If you plug an ~other~ plug into a Switchcraft jack, it will be loose
and not connect well. If you plug a Switchcraft plug into an ~other~ jack, it will permanently
spring the jack, ruining it.

I did a lot of damage to a MiniModular with Switchcraft plugs, until I learned this.

There is some difference between Metric plugs and Switchcraft pluge, the Switchcraft are true
1/8" diameter.

H^) harry

----- Original Message -----
From: cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>
To: karl dalen <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>
Cc: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
Sent: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:44:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Substitute for pin matrixes?

Karl, yes, google can't find them. Can you find them, Karl? Can you?
Please do it, for me, Karl. One photo of each that shows the
differences between japanese and rounded plugs. Just for us, Karl.

D.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 19:34, karl dalen <dalenkarl at yahoo.se> wrote:
> They are basically everywhere!
>
> Google dont understand search words that existed before Google it self!
>
> Its really spooky!
>
> japanese plugs are defined by their angled/slope
>  between tip and first ring.
>
> KD
>
>
>
> --- Den sön 2010-01-24 skrev cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>:
>
>> Från: cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>
>> Ämne: Re: [sdiy] Substitute for pin matrixes?
>> Till: "karl dalen" <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>
>> Kopia: "Magnus Danielson" <magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org>, synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>> Datum: söndag 24 januari 2010 22.58
>> Have you got a photo of those
>> 'japanese' and 'rounded' minijack plugs?
>>
>> A google search for japanese minijack plugs came up with
>> nothing.
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 18:53, karl dalen <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>
>> wrote:
>> > Mini jack are not crap, the problem are that people
>> mix rounded
>> > plugs and Japanese jacks, then the jack go ape, if one
>> takes
>> > a japanese plug an insert it into a rounded jack
>> nothing goes
>> > ape it just becomes slightly firmer in the seating.
>> >
>> > The difference are the japanese has figured out how
>> > to make a universal plug that dont fuck up the jacks.
>> >
>> > The problem doepfer had back in the 90'es was just
>> this he mixed
>> > Japanese plugs with Cliff's wrongly engineered
>> jacks.Cliff even
>> > have a special plug that they want peole to buy for
>> these jacks
>> > if you insert on of their plugs into any other jack it
>> will break!
>> >
>> > So the advice are, dont buy anything else then the
>> Japanese
>> > standard and you will be fine.
>> >
>> > KD
>> >
>> > --- Den sön 2010-01-24 skrev cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >> Från: cheater cheater <cheater00 at gmail.com>
>> >> Ämne: Re: [sdiy] Substitute for pin matrixes?
>> >> Till: "Magnus Danielson" <magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org>
>> >> Kopia: "karl dalen" <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>,
>> synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>> >> Datum: söndag 24 januari 2010 16.00
>> >> What are you talking about? My silver
>> >> cape and red spandex suit DOES
>> >> make me the coolest in the gig!
>> >>
>> >> Minijack plugs are crap because the edge of the
>> metal
>> >> connecting to
>> >> the standoff plastic ring is not rounded. If you
>> can find a
>> >> rounded
>> >> one, sort of like 'long frame' plugs:
>> >> http://switchcraft.com/products/jack-123.html
>> >> then you're better off than usual. But neither
>> Switchcraft
>> >> nor Neutrik
>> >> makes such, with good reason - minijacks are not
>> meant for
>> >> lots of
>> >> cycles. So the question is why not use normal long
>> frame
>> >> jacks? The
>> >> answer is going to be "space" or "cost" or "space
>> and
>> >> cost". If
>> >> someone's bothered about the space, get a he can
>> pin
>> >> matrix, if he's
>> >> bothered about the cost then he isn't going to get
>> good
>> >> repeatability
>> >> anyways, and if he's bothered about space AND cost
>> then he
>> >> has a
>> >> problem, but he can always get a job and earn
>> enough to buy
>> >> a proper
>> >> pinhole matrix. This is in fact the most
>> cost-effective
>> >> solution! :P
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> D.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:27, Magnus Danielson
>> >> <magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > karl dalen wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Fuse holders in an array? What do you
>> think of
>> >> that!! :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or automatic fuses, blast 10A, fuse
>> goes,
>> >> >> current disappears, fuses resets.
>> >> >>  Blowable matrix a new musical concept!
>> >> >
>> >> > If you make the VCO and Generator synonymous,
>> let the
>> >> VCA be a transductor
>> >> > etc. etc. you can have great fun with power,
>> but
>> >> balanced signals would
>> >> > naturally be three-phase. Don't forget the
>> spark-gaps
>> >> and knife-edge
>> >> > switches! :) Maybe at last the synth player
>> would be
>> >> coolest in the gig...
>> >> > prof nutty running his lab of mad science!
>> :D
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > Magnus
>> >> >
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