[sdiy] Solaris at NAMM

[cheater cheater]

The thing ahead of its game will be a new sampler that isn't stuck
with an 80s feature set.

D.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 15:44, Richard Wentk <richard at wentk.com> wrote:
> There's also a big difference between significant updates with impressive new features, and relatively minor bug fixes and tweaks.
>
> I don't really get the point of Solaris. So far as I can tell it's just another polysynth - hopefully a nice-sounding polysynth, but there's no lack of nice-sounding polysynths already.
>
> Yes, you can have Four Whole Oscillators!
>
> Wow. Not.
>
> It's basically a 1980s instrument that's very late - like a PPG Realizer that actually works (or will work) - not a 2010s instrument that's ahead of the game.
>
> Richard
>
>
> On 20 Jan 2010, at 01:36, Adam Schabtach wrote:
>
>> A reasonable point, but there's a big difference between upgrades that an
>> end-user musician can purchase, and upgrades that can be performed by
>> someone who is well-versed in writing code for DSP chips and CPLDs. My point
>> is that, historically speaking, many musicians who purchased gear that came
>> with promises of being upgradeable for years to come have been disappointed.
>>
>> --Adam
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of thx1138
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:56 PM
>>> To: Chris Muir; synthdiy DIY
>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Solaris at NAMM
>>>
>>> On one point I beg to differ,
>>>
>>> The SoundART Chameleon is still upgradeable by current tools
>>> available from Freescale and others. Nothing has changed
>>> except the business status of SoundART.
>>>
>>> The Coldfire is still supported by Metrowerks, WindRiver and
>>> a new Eclipse based based MetroWerks compiler v10.0 soon to launch.
>>>
>>> We have a new DSP tool chain called Symphony Studio that is
>>> an Eclipse based tool for FREE!!! that supports all of the
>>> DSP563xx and DSP5672x Dual-Core processors.
>>>
>>> Altium even builds a Pro version of Compiler tools to support
>>> the DSP56xxx devices.
>>>
>>> The Chameleon may not be in production but Freescale still
>>> support tools and chips used by the Chameleon.
>>>
>>> So in the end , it still is upgradeable in all accounts. I
>>> even use one here in my lab for prototyping projects.
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents and Bravo to Paul Maddox for his fine efforts
>>> on Chameleon.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Terry Shultz
>>> DSP & ARM Audio Technology & Applications Freescale Inc.
>>>
>>> On 1/19/10 4:46 PM, "Chris Muir" <cbm at well.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Nord Modular could be added to that list, and even Eventide has
>>>> succumbed to making new products to obsolete the old.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 19, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Adam Schabtach wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At the risk of sounding jaded, that "upgradeable for years to come"
>>>>> bullet
>>>>> point is becoming something of a red flag of warning. The
>>> Wave is a
>>>>> good example, but also consider the SoundArt Chameleon, the Peavey
>>>>> DPM-3, and the Roland VariOS. All were supposed to be "upgradeable
>>>>> for years to come" and yet none of them panned out that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>>>> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of Graham
>>>>>> Atkins
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:10 PM
>>>>>> To: Tom Wiltshire
>>>>>> Cc: synthdiy DIY
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Solaris at NAMM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I quite agree Tom,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You would hope that potential owners would use the the
>>> abilities of
>>>>>> the Solaris to create new sounds, otherwise you would be
>>> better off
>>>>>> saving your hard earned money and buying an average Roland, Korg,
>>>>>> Yamaha etc....or any of the others that also do the same
>>> "presets".
>>>>>> The developers kit would be good, but John Bowen has
>>> already said he
>>>>>> wants the software to be upgradeable for years to come.
>>> The same was
>>>>>> said about the Waldorf Wave, and look what happened there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19 Jan 2010, at 22:11, Tom Wiltshire wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, I'd like to see these out in the wild too,
>>> although I doubt I
>>>>>>> can justify buying one. I haven't got any more grandmas
>>>>>> left to sell,
>>>>>>> unfortunately ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It looks like great hardware, but I admit that I was a bit
>>>>>>> disappointed to read the features on the website - a
>>> Moog filter, a
>>>>>>> CEM filter, an ARP filter, oscillators from X, feature
>>> from Y, etc
>>>>>>> etc. Why design such a great instrument and then use it to
>>>>>> copy stuff
>>>>>>> that's already been done? I think the synth world really
>>>>>> needs to pull
>>>>>>> its head out of its own backside and start looking
>>>>>>> *forwards* instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still, it does look like a great piece of kit, and if it
>>>>>> came with a
>>>>>>> developers kit so I could program for it, I'd go and
>>> steal someone
>>>>>>> else's granny and sell her to get one!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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