[sdiy] Solaris at NAMM

[Richard Wentk]

There's also a big difference between significant updates with impressive new features, and relatively minor bug fixes and tweaks. 

I don't really get the point of Solaris. So far as I can tell it's just another polysynth - hopefully a nice-sounding polysynth, but there's no lack of nice-sounding polysynths already. 

Yes, you can have Four Whole Oscillators!

Wow. Not.

It's basically a 1980s instrument that's very late - like a PPG Realizer that actually works (or will work) - not a 2010s instrument that's ahead of the game. 

Richard


On 20 Jan 2010, at 01:36, Adam Schabtach wrote:

> A reasonable point, but there's a big difference between upgrades that an
> end-user musician can purchase, and upgrades that can be performed by
> someone who is well-versed in writing code for DSP chips and CPLDs. My point
> is that, historically speaking, many musicians who purchased gear that came
> with promises of being upgradeable for years to come have been disappointed.
> 
> --Adam
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl 
>> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of thx1138
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:56 PM
>> To: Chris Muir; synthdiy DIY
>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Solaris at NAMM
>> 
>> On one point I beg to differ,
>> 
>> The SoundART Chameleon is still upgradeable by current tools 
>> available from Freescale and others. Nothing has changed 
>> except the business status of SoundART.
>> 
>> The Coldfire is still supported by Metrowerks, WindRiver and 
>> a new Eclipse based based MetroWerks compiler v10.0 soon to launch.
>> 
>> We have a new DSP tool chain called Symphony Studio that is 
>> an Eclipse based tool for FREE!!! that supports all of the 
>> DSP563xx and DSP5672x Dual-Core processors. 
>> 
>> Altium even builds a Pro version of Compiler tools to support 
>> the DSP56xxx devices.
>> 
>> The Chameleon may not be in production but Freescale still 
>> support tools and chips used by the Chameleon.
>> 
>> So in the end , it still is upgradeable in all accounts. I 
>> even use one here in my lab for prototyping projects.
>> 
>> Just my 2 cents and Bravo to Paul Maddox for his fine efforts 
>> on Chameleon.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Terry Shultz
>> DSP & ARM Audio Technology & Applications Freescale Inc.
>> 
>> On 1/19/10 4:46 PM, "Chris Muir" <cbm at well.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> The Nord Modular could be added to that list, and even Eventide has 
>>> succumbed to making new products to obsolete the old.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Adam Schabtach wrote:
>>> 
>>>> At the risk of sounding jaded, that "upgradeable for years to come"
>>>> bullet
>>>> point is becoming something of a red flag of warning. The 
>> Wave is a 
>>>> good example, but also consider the SoundArt Chameleon, the Peavey 
>>>> DPM-3, and the Roland VariOS. All were supposed to be "upgradeable 
>>>> for years to come" and yet none of them panned out that way.
>>>> 
>>>> --Adam
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>>> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of Graham 
>>>>> Atkins
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:10 PM
>>>>> To: Tom Wiltshire
>>>>> Cc: synthdiy DIY
>>>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Solaris at NAMM
>>>>> 
>>>>> I quite agree Tom,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You would hope that potential owners would use the the 
>> abilities of 
>>>>> the Solaris to create new sounds, otherwise you would be 
>> better off 
>>>>> saving your hard earned money and buying an average Roland, Korg, 
>>>>> Yamaha etc....or any of the others that also do the same 
>> "presets". 
>>>>> The developers kit would be good, but John Bowen has 
>> already said he 
>>>>> wants the software to be upgradeable for years to come. 
>> The same was 
>>>>> said about the Waldorf Wave, and look what happened there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Jan 2010, at 22:11, Tom Wiltshire wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yeah, I'd like to see these out in the wild too, 
>> although I doubt I 
>>>>>> can justify buying one. I haven't got any more grandmas
>>>>> left to sell,
>>>>>> unfortunately ;)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It looks like great hardware, but I admit that I was a bit 
>>>>>> disappointed to read the features on the website - a 
>> Moog filter, a 
>>>>>> CEM filter, an ARP filter, oscillators from X, feature 
>> from Y, etc 
>>>>>> etc. Why design such a great instrument and then use it to
>>>>> copy stuff
>>>>>> that's already been done? I think the synth world really
>>>>> needs to pull
>>>>>> its head out of its own backside and start looking
>>>>>> *forwards* instead.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Still, it does look like a great piece of kit, and if it
>>>>> came with a
>>>>>> developers kit so I could program for it, I'd go and 
>> steal someone 
>>>>>> else's granny and sell her to get one!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> T.
>>>>> 
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