[sdiy] Solaris at NAMM

Adam Schabtach lists at studionebula.com
Wed Jan 20 02:36:23 CET 2010


A reasonable point, but there's a big difference between upgrades that an
end-user musician can purchase, and upgrades that can be performed by
someone who is well-versed in writing code for DSP chips and CPLDs. My point
is that, historically speaking, many musicians who purchased gear that came
with promises of being upgradeable for years to come have been disappointed.

--Adam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl 
> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of thx1138
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:56 PM
> To: Chris Muir; synthdiy DIY
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Solaris at NAMM
> 
> On one point I beg to differ,
> 
> The SoundART Chameleon is still upgradeable by current tools 
> available from Freescale and others. Nothing has changed 
> except the business status of SoundART.
> 
> The Coldfire is still supported by Metrowerks, WindRiver and 
> a new Eclipse based based MetroWerks compiler v10.0 soon to launch.
> 
> We have a new DSP tool chain called Symphony Studio that is 
> an Eclipse based tool for FREE!!! that supports all of the 
> DSP563xx and DSP5672x Dual-Core processors. 
> 
> Altium even builds a Pro version of Compiler tools to support 
> the DSP56xxx devices.
> 
> The Chameleon may not be in production but Freescale still 
> support tools and chips used by the Chameleon.
> 
> So in the end , it still is upgradeable in all accounts. I 
> even use one here in my lab for prototyping projects.
> 
> Just my 2 cents and Bravo to Paul Maddox for his fine efforts 
> on Chameleon.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Terry Shultz
> DSP & ARM Audio Technology & Applications Freescale Inc.
> 
> On 1/19/10 4:46 PM, "Chris Muir" <cbm at well.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > The Nord Modular could be added to that list, and even Eventide has 
> > succumbed to making new products to obsolete the old.
> > 
> > On Jan 19, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Adam Schabtach wrote:
> > 
> >> At the risk of sounding jaded, that "upgradeable for years to come"
> >> bullet
> >> point is becoming something of a red flag of warning. The 
> Wave is a 
> >> good example, but also consider the SoundArt Chameleon, the Peavey 
> >> DPM-3, and the Roland VariOS. All were supposed to be "upgradeable 
> >> for years to come" and yet none of them panned out that way.
> >> 
> >> --Adam
> >> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> >>> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of Graham 
> >>> Atkins
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:10 PM
> >>> To: Tom Wiltshire
> >>> Cc: synthdiy DIY
> >>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Solaris at NAMM
> >>> 
> >>> I quite agree Tom,
> >>> 
> >>> You would hope that potential owners would use the the 
> abilities of 
> >>> the Solaris to create new sounds, otherwise you would be 
> better off 
> >>> saving your hard earned money and buying an average Roland, Korg, 
> >>> Yamaha etc....or any of the others that also do the same 
> "presets". 
> >>> The developers kit would be good, but John Bowen has 
> already said he 
> >>> wants the software to be upgradeable for years to come. 
> The same was 
> >>> said about the Waldorf Wave, and look what happened there.
> >>> 
> >>> Graham
> >>> 
> >>> On 19 Jan 2010, at 22:11, Tom Wiltshire wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Yeah, I'd like to see these out in the wild too, 
> although I doubt I 
> >>>> can justify buying one. I haven't got any more grandmas
> >>> left to sell,
> >>>> unfortunately ;)
> >>>> 
> >>>> It looks like great hardware, but I admit that I was a bit 
> >>>> disappointed to read the features on the website - a 
> Moog filter, a 
> >>>> CEM filter, an ARP filter, oscillators from X, feature 
> from Y, etc 
> >>>> etc. Why design such a great instrument and then use it to
> >>> copy stuff
> >>>> that's already been done? I think the synth world really
> >>> needs to pull
> >>>> its head out of its own backside and start looking
> >>>> *forwards* instead.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Still, it does look like a great piece of kit, and if it
> >>> came with a
> >>>> developers kit so I could program for it, I'd go and 
> steal someone 
> >>>> else's granny and sell her to get one!
> >>>> 
> >>>> T.
> >>> 
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> > Chris Muir
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