[sdiy] new list: synth_diy @yahoo

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THE TROLL HAS BEEN BANNED, NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG

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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 18:25, Dave Kendall <davekendall at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> The troll has been banned, and Rick is aware that he is not welcome. I get
> from his message that another reappearance of the troll will result in
> action.
>
> I do sincerely hope all those who unsubbed return to the list, and
> particluarly Tim Servo, whose humour has often brightened the day....
>
> Jason has provided a forum which people can join if they wish - it's not
> either/or. IMO there is now another useful choice with its advantages and
> disadvantages.
> Many here are also on electro-music.com and muffwiggler to name two, and
> there is no conflict in that, that I can see.
>
>
> cheers,
> Dave
>
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> On Feb 19, 2010, at 16:32, Jason Proctor wrote:
>
>> personally i saw the unsubbing of a bunch of great list people as a
>> watershed where something had to be done. the usual strategy of hoping the
>> problem would take care of itself has failed. nobody else stepped up, so i
>> did.
>>
>> what's it to be? business as usual and accept the loss of great people as
>> natural attrition? if that's the solution, i reckon this list is about dead
>> already.
>>
>> to address some points in turn -
>>
>> - i'm not trying to move us to a forum. forum != mailing list. forums are
>> sync blocking. bad for time management.
>>
>> - we've been ignoring the troll for years, and while this strategy has
>> worked for individuals, it has not worked for the group as a whole. the
>> troll simply gets bigger until he can provoke the reaction he's looking for.
>> which in this case is the unsubbing of list luminaries. the creation of a
>> new moderated list does *not* serve the troll's purpose.
>>
>> - there has been little to no moderation or facilities provided on the
>> list for a *long* time. as long as i've been here, for sure. don't pretend
>> there has, just because someone suggested change.
>>
>> - yahoo isn't perfect, admittedly. if anyone has any suggestions for an
>> alternative, go right ahead. i am no yahoo fanboy, for sure! with any
>> service there are compromises. if anyone suggested hosting this list
>> @dropmix *now*, they'd be laughed at.
>>
>> - as i said in the list-creation email, i expect to be able to back off on
>> the moderation if/when the new list gets going smoothly. read the thread.
>>
>> - as for getting bored of being the captain, well, i'm not going to tire
>> of email or synths anytime soon. and i'm responsive, so if people don't like
>> my style, i'll give the list to someone else with no transition
>> difficulties. *and*, most of the time the list runs itself. so, complain
>> that i'm doing too much, or too little -- pick one.
>>
>> - there are 25 members on the new list since last night. i'd call that
>> good takeup so far.
>>
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