[sdiy] new list: synth_diy @yahoo

[Dave Kendall]

The troll has been banned, and Rick is aware that he is not welcome. I 
get from his message that another reappearance of the troll will result 
in action.

I do sincerely hope all those who unsubbed return to the list, and 
particluarly Tim Servo, whose humour has often brightened the day....

Jason has provided a forum which people can join if they wish - it's 
not either/or. IMO there is now another useful choice with its 
advantages and disadvantages.
Many here are also on electro-music.com and muffwiggler to name two, 
and there is no conflict in that, that I can see.


cheers,
Dave





On Feb 19, 2010, at 16:32, Jason Proctor wrote:

> personally i saw the unsubbing of a bunch of great list people as a 
> watershed where something had to be done. the usual strategy of hoping 
> the problem would take care of itself has failed. nobody else stepped 
> up, so i did.
>
> what's it to be? business as usual and accept the loss of great people 
> as natural attrition? if that's the solution, i reckon this list is 
> about dead already.
>
> to address some points in turn -
>
> - i'm not trying to move us to a forum. forum != mailing list. forums 
> are sync blocking. bad for time management.
>
> - we've been ignoring the troll for years, and while this strategy has 
> worked for individuals, it has not worked for the group as a whole. 
> the troll simply gets bigger until he can provoke the reaction he's 
> looking for. which in this case is the unsubbing of list luminaries. 
> the creation of a new moderated list does *not* serve the troll's 
> purpose.
>
> - there has been little to no moderation or facilities provided on the 
> list for a *long* time. as long as i've been here, for sure. don't 
> pretend there has, just because someone suggested change.
>
> - yahoo isn't perfect, admittedly. if anyone has any suggestions for 
> an alternative, go right ahead. i am no yahoo fanboy, for sure! with 
> any service there are compromises. if anyone suggested hosting this 
> list @dropmix *now*, they'd be laughed at.
>
> - as i said in the list-creation email, i expect to be able to back 
> off on the moderation if/when the new list gets going smoothly. read 
> the thread.
>
> - as for getting bored of being the captain, well, i'm not going to 
> tire of email or synths anytime soon. and i'm responsive, so if people 
> don't like my style, i'll give the list to someone else with no 
> transition difficulties. *and*, most of the time the list runs itself. 
> so, complain that i'm doing too much, or too little -- pick one.
>
> - there are 25 members on the new list since last night. i'd call that 
> good takeup so far.
>
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