[sdiy] Non-inverting output buffer

Harry Bissell harrybissell at wowway.com
Tue Apr 27 20:36:22 CEST 2010


whats wrong with... oooh I know I know :^)

TL07x opamps have a real desire to oscillate on capacitive
loads, especially cable capacitance. A small resistor is
all you need to decouple that. Bet the models don't show
that.

I find even 10 ohms is enough.

The series resistance will limit short circuit current.

With no load, the gain should be closer to one, imho...
the 75 ohms is a divider with what, 10e7 at least ???

I just use 10 ohms after a simple divider, the 10 ohms and
a 100K resistor (input to the next stage) gives like
.009% error

but, having a TL07x oscillating rail to rail is NOT a pretty
thing. I'll take the series resistor, please...

H^) harry

----- Original Message -----
From: David G. Dixon <dixon at interchange.ubc.ca>
To: 'Andre Majorel' <aym-htnys at teaser.fr>, synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:08:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Non-inverting output buffer

Andre,

Based on a Multisim simulation using TL072BCP, I believe the question is
moot, since the 75R resistor on the opamp output limits the gain to about
0.9926 regardless.  A gain of 1.0000 is only achieved when that 75R resistor
is removed.

With that resistor removed, Multisim simulation suggests that the gain is
completely insensitive to the feedback resistor value between 0 and 5M (the
highest value pot I could put in) and also to the presence or absence of the
feedback capacitor, regardless of the frequency between 1Hz and 20kHz.  At
20kHz, the opamp output lags the input by about 46ns, creating about 0.004%
THD in a sine wave.  This is an artifact of the opamp.

So what's wrong with a simple follower (R1 = 0, R2 = 0, no cap)?

> Excuse the basic question, but in a non-inverting output buffer
> like this one
> 
>                    R1
>         +---------^v^v---------+
>         |                      |
>         +------||----+         |
>         |     33pF   |         |
>         |  |-_       |         |
>         +--|- -_     |   R2    |
>            |   _-----+--^v^v---+--o  OUT
>   IN  o----|+_-          75
>            |-
> 
> how do you choose R1 ?
> 
> The goal is to have a gain of 1.0000 from DC to 20 kHz for loads
> down to 10 k.
> 
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