[sdiy] 2164 Expo VCO tracking
cheater cheater
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Tue Apr 13 11:10:20 CEST 2010
David,
that's great news!
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 06:57, David G. Dixon <dixon at interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:
> OK, here's the deal:
>
> The reason why the 2164 Expo VCO's tracking falls apart at high frequencies
> is because the 2164's advertised 33mV/dB response falls apart above +20dB
> (as advertised).
so what's the reason it worked on the breadboard?
> I doubled the reference current going into the 2164 (to double the frequency
> at any given voltage) and immediately got excellent tracking up to 7kHz, and
> only about -0.2% error at 14kHz. In other words, I obtained virtually the
> same tracking performance as lastnight, only at double the frequencies.
>
> Other observations:
>
> The Franco resistors are extraneous, but may help slightly. Only a tiny bit
> of HF trim is needed without them, and only at 7kHz (which needed about a
> 40Hz boost). My reference (0V) frequency would have been about 920Hz, so
> the +20dB frequency would have been about 9.2kHz.
>
> The only "weird" thing about using the 2164 is that (at least with the
> PN4391 JFET and an LM311 comparator for reset) the comparator output to the
> gate must be filtered.
Where is that filter located?
> 100pF or slightly smaller is ideal. Otherwise, I
> think that the reset spikes are injected into the ramp, and this is probably
> what is causing the overshoot at the frequencies from 0 to +20dB. With the
> 100pF cap, I can limit the error at those frequencies to about +0.1%, and
> the edge of the ramp looks a lot cleaner. Tracking below 0dB is excellent
> regardless.
>
> Also, I tried Achim's suggestion of running in Class AB mode, and this was a
> total disaster. I was correct when I said that I had been down that path
> before. Any resistor between the MODE pin and the positive rail distorts
> the gain response, and the recommended 7.5k resistor sends it completely out
> of whack (errors of about 100%). This pin must remain unconnected.
>
> Essentially, what all of this means is that one can get about 18 good
> octaves out of this VCO. However, tracking will only be precise about 3 to
> 4 octaves above the 0V (0dB) frequency. Hence, that frequency should be set
> to about 1/10 of the maximum frequency you care about tracking accurately.
> If, for example, that frequency is set at 1kHz, then tracking should be
> excellent up to 8kHz, and serviceable up to 16kHz. However, for a +/-15V
> system, the lowest frequency will be about 0.03Hz, which gives a period of
> about 33s. This is plenty low enough for most LFO purposes, but to get
> lower would require a range switch.
18 octaves is more than you'd ever want, I think. I've never composed
a synth part which spanned 18 octaves.
> Now I can finally put this naughty little puppy to bed and get on with my
> life! Thanks to everyone for your helpful suggestions and encouragement.
Well done! :-) Now it's time to think about features on the PCB.
Cheers
D.
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