[sdiy] PLL module (was: Re: trolls and unicorns

[cheater cheater]

Oh right!
Duh :-)

Yamaha has too many 'yamaha patents' :-)

D.

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 19:39, JH. <jhaible at debitel.net> wrote:
> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_articles/jul94/yamahavl1.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_modelling_synthesis
>
> JH.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cheater cheater" <cheater00 at gmail.com>
> To: "JH." <jhaible at debitel.net>
> Cc: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10 at hotmail.com>; <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] PLL module (was: Re: trolls and unicorns
>
>
> Hi Juergen,
> never heard of JOS having anything to do with Yamaha, but check this out:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_modulation_synthesis
>
>
>> History
>>
>> The technique, which was discovered by John
>> Chowning (Chowning 1973, cited in Dodge
>> and Jerse, p.115) at Stanford University in
>> 1967-68, was patented in 1975 and later
>> licensed to Yamaha.
>>
>> It should be noted that the implementation
>> commercialized by Yamaha (US Patent
>> 4018121 Apr 1977 or U.S. Patent 4,018,121)
>> is actually based on phase modulation.
>
> Cheers
> D.
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 19:11, JH. <jhaible at debitel.net> wrote:
>> It's been a while since I've been writing this ...
>> Didn't Yamaha licence the Patents of Julius Smith?
>> I just checked my hard disc - no PM patents sored there.
>> I guess it's up too Google then ...
>>
>> JH.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10 at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] PLL module (was: Re: trolls and unicorns
>>
>>
>>
>> Could you tell me what Yamaha patent(s) you're referring to? I've been playing with "sort of not really" physical modeling stuff
>> in
>> PD lately (results here: http://www.4shared.com/file/255168234/4ea7e40b/radiohalo17.html) and I'm curious as to where they've
>> taken
>> it.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> From: jhaible at debitel.net
>>> To: tensiontype at hotmail.com
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:52:50 +0200
>>> CC: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>> Subject: [sdiy] PLL module (was: Re: trolls and unicorns
>>>
>>> I'm working on an Analogue Physical Modelling module. Part of it is a PLL, that is used for clocking a BBD with the tracking
>>> accuracy of an ordinary audio range VCO:
>>>
>>> http://www.jhaible.de/physmod/jh_ana_phys_mod.html
>>>
>>> JH.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sean Ellis"
>>> To: "Sean Ellis" ; "Julian" ; "Harry Bissell" ; "Jason
>>> Proctor"
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] trolls and unicorns
>>>
>>>
>>> D'oh! PLL is what I meant, it's late....
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sean Ellis"
>>> To: "Julian" ; "Harry Bissell"
>>> ; "Jason Proctor"
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] trolls and unicorns
>>>
>>>
>>>>I try to avoid posting on these types of threads but if you think AH is a
>>>>troll fest you dont frequent the internet very often. It was part of my job
>>>>to consult with the community for my last game I worked on, AH (forget
>>>>about SDIY) is the height of good manners and camaraderie compared to the
>>>>internet as a whole. I have this printed on my wall at work:
>>>> http://justagirlintheworld.com/images/fucktard.jpg
>>>> :-D
>>>>
>>>> Back to business, why are there so few PPL modules out there? A long time
>>>> ago I made a crazy module with a PPL at its heart, it was based on a
>>>> harmony circuit that was supposed to perform a backup when a person
>>>> whistled a tune. With some careful additions it turned into an amazing
>>>> 'fattener' module for synths, the tracking was awful and sounded like your
>>>> drunk friend trying to see what keys you were pressing....I always
>>>> wondered why people dont use PPLs more.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Julian"
>>>> To: "Harry Bissell" ; "Jason Proctor"
>>>>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] trolls (was: Wave terrain synthesis)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> What's this... has s-diy been invaded by Analogue Heaven ??? :^)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> please, i beg you... dont let it happen!
>>>>>
>>>>> this list is a breath of fresh air compared with the petty bickering that
>>>>> goes on on AH, despite the authoritarian heavy handedness that seems to
>>>>> *always* be running just under the surface (sometimes i wonder if that in
>>>>> itself creates the atmosphere of tension that fuels the general feeling
>>>>> of unrest, but thats another debate)
>>>>>
>>>>> remember, generally, when two people start talking at (rather than with)
>>>>> each other on an internet mailing list, they both end up looking like
>>>>> fools to evreyone else, so the only real people they are impressing are
>>>>> themselves.
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