[sdiy] Juno 106 stuck notes

[Gil W.]

Thanks buddies !

Yes, I think the A33 sends CC0 and CC32 with every message.

I planned placing a midi filter between the A33 and 106 so only Program Changes are sent to it, but haven't managed to get any yet.

I'll record the midi messages and A33 sends and send it here.



--- On Sun, 9/27/09, Dave Kendall <davekendall at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> From: Dave Kendall <davekendall at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Juno 106 stuck notes
> To: "Gil W." <gil_we at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Synth DIY" <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
> Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 2:03 AM
> Hi Gil.
> 
> A shot in the dark here..... Does the A33 send bank change
> commands 
> (MIDI CC0 and/or CC32) along with PGM changes ?
> 
> The 106 was an early MIDI instrument, and perhaps cannot
> handle those 
> bank change messages, which IIRC, were introduced a while
> after MIDI 
> had been widely adopted.
> 
> If you have a MIDI EVENT LIST viewer to hand in your
> sequencer, record 
> a PGM change from the A33 into it, and have a look and see
> exactly what 
> MIDI messages are being sent from the A33 on PGM change.
> There might be 
> all sorts of things in there that *may* confuse the old
> 106......
> 
> hope this helps...
> 
> cheers,
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2009, at 23:20, Gil W. wrote:
> 
> > This is strange.
> >
> > I had the 106 powered ON for a couple of days - no
> issues.
> > I connected the MIDI OUT of my sound card to the 106
> MIDI IN,
> > played notes and changed presets via MIDI - it works
> perfectly,
> > no notes hanging, or changing spontaneously...
> >
> > Could it be that the A33 sends junk data to the 106 at
> some point 
> > during the shows ? I couldn't find any consistency
> when this happens 
> > (i.e it can happen just about with any preset)...?
> >
> > Can the A33 sends "all notes off" for each preset,
> when switching to 
> > it  ?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/23/09, db <dbarton at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: db <dbarton at pacbell.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Juno 106 stuck notes
> >> To: "Gil W." <gil_we at yahoo.com>
> >> Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 4:12 AM
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there any chance the release slider is
> defective and you
> >> are getting long release rather than an actual 
> stuck
> >> note?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 9/22/2009 01:39 AM, you wrote:
> >>> My Juno 106 is giving me some issues lately. I
> already
> >> replaced all 80017A's with clones and generally it
> works
> >> very well and quite reliable except for one
> problem which
> >> I'll describe -
> >>>
> >>> The 106 is getting MIDI IN from my Roland A33
> >> controller, sent to it via MIDI OUT #2 (OUT #1 is
> going into
> >> my JV2080). This way I can send notes and preset
> changes to
> >> the JV2080, and preset changes to the 106. So the
> 106
> >> doesn't receive motes on/off, once I switch a
> preset on the
> >> A33, I click the MIDI OUTPUT SELECT #2 to OFF, so
> it doesn't
> >> send MIDI to the 106 anymore.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if the problem has anything to do
> with
> >> the specific set-up, or MIDI in general, but after
> playing
> >> about 15 songs (or an hour), when I switch to a
> preset and
> >> play, I would hear the notes continuously, meaning
> they get
> >> stuck. It will sometimes get back to normal
> operation when I
> >> would switch the presets manually on the 106....
> >>>
> >>> This really giving me bad times on live shows
> so I
> >> must get it fixed somehow....
> >>>
> >>> Any idea what could cause this and how can
> this be
> >> sorted out ?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks all !!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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