[sdiy] piano and effects...

[Barry Klein]

The Steinway only is worth what someone is able and willing to pay.
I was not able to pay much.  I first went to a piano store, one of the few
left in the area, and saw one like this for 25 grand.
I then saw the Craigslist ad for one just like it, but cracked soundboard,
for $6500.  It was in Arizona, 120 degrees outside and had been moved
back and forth from there and Oregon..  So yeah the soundboard might crack.
But it does not affect the sound - so who cares?
What is really cool about this piano is that it just "pops" in tune. It is
like the whole mass of it wants each string to be what it should be...
I had a Chickering before and it was always a pain to tune.  Now with this
it is way better. And everything else about how it plays and keys feel is
better (even being so old).  The guy that had it before seems to have had
the hammers redone as the felt looks new.  So for me this is awesome.
In Arizona a few tuning pins were loose.  In California with the added
humidity I guess, they tightened up on their own.  I am sure a true piano
tech could spend some time with this and tweak everything but I don't care
to raise my expectations level.  It will just cost me more and more in the
future...

-----Original Message-----
From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl
[mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of cheater cheater
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:41 AM
To: synth-diy
Subject: Re: [sdiy] piano and effects...

No, Steinway demand so much money because their piano is very well
made (well crafted if you will). It has a lot of technical detail to
it and has many elements most other manufacturers don't bother with.
Those factors let it outclass the other designs, making the steinway
grand piano more reliable, easier to tune, and less prone to the
problems of the other pianos. But how it sounds is fully, entirely up
to the person tuning the piano. You're paying for the craftsmanship
and engineering, the sound is just a derivative of that original
effort.

D.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Michael Bechard <gothmagog at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I kind of have to wonder why you bothered getting such a top-of-the-line
piano if you're planning on mucking with the sound, the very reason why
Steinway's demand such a high price, so much.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Barry Klein <Barry.L.Klein at wdc.com>
> To: synth-diy <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
> Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 3:34:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [sdiy] piano and effects...
>
> I'm thinking more in the lines of:
> 1. realtime frequency shifting using Harmonizer or the like
> 2. use ebow-like concept and electrically drive the strings
> 3. individual string circuits with distorters and envelope followers, all
> mixed together in various ways.
> 4. Binaural recording as well as localized spacial recordings to create a
3D
> space.
> 5. devise some sort of pickup to feed into that interesting VG-99
thing....
>
> Barry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of cheater cheater
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:49 PM
> To: synth-diy
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] piano and effects...
>
> Piano -> single input on a polyphonic synth with lowpass filters.
> Synth controlled by pianobar. That's something you want.
>
> Accoustic feedback: directional microphone on the piano -> amp ->
> speaker under the piano. Volume set real low and additional volume
> gain controlled by pedal.
>
> D.
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Barry Klein <Barry.L.Klein at wdc.com> wrote:
>> I see the discussion mentioning the Bosendorfer and recalled a question I
>> wanted to ask.  I recently aquired a wonderful 1917 Steinway M.  Really
>> screwed up the nice furniture arrangement in the living room but
obviously
>> I do not give a sh at t.  Any of you play around with placing microphones
>> (perhaps electrets) in various places on a piano and then running the
>> outputs through your synth, harmonizers, etc.  Could be very fun...
>> Although this one sounds very cool by itself..
>>
>> Barry
>>
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