[sdiy] piano and effects...

[Barry Klein]

Good question.  Several reasons for my questions really.
First, I am not interested in anything that will even place a scratch on my 
baby.  So I am not about to screw on a midi conversion bar for example.  But 
I am willing to tape one on or several microphones.
Also I am not really interested in destroying the sound and making a piano 
into a polyphonic synth of some sort.  But I am curious if someone has.  I'd 
like to hear it.  I am not thinking of just recording the sound and 
distorting it here - I am saying what if you treat a piano as a big guitar 
synth with individual pickups.... what do you get?  Has someone done it.
With my piano I think where I will experiment is with the microphones and 
effects to create surround sound recordings that would be most appreciated 
with headphones.  There are a ton of articles on how to record piano but I 
just haven't heard of someone really going overboard with it to the degree 
I'm thinking of.

Also please don't characterize me as some rich snob with his Steinway.  I am 
a cheap bastard that found an affordable great one on Craigslist and drove 
14 hours to go see it, buy it, and return (and had a pretty good deal on 
moving cost).  I can't believe the thing was advertised there for months 
before I got it.  Life long dream to have this even though I play like crap.

Barry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Bechard" <gothmagog at yahoo.com>
To: "synth-diy" <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [sdiy] piano and effects...


>I kind of have to wonder why you bothered getting such a top-of-the-line 
>piano if you're planning on mucking with the sound, the very reason why 
>Steinway's demand such a high price, so much.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Barry Klein <Barry.L.Klein at wdc.com>
> To: synth-diy <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
> Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 3:34:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [sdiy] piano and effects...
>
> I'm thinking more in the lines of:
> 1. realtime frequency shifting using Harmonizer or the like
> 2. use ebow-like concept and electrically drive the strings
> 3. individual string circuits with distorters and envelope followers, all
> mixed together in various ways.
> 4. Binaural recording as well as localized spacial recordings to create a 
> 3D
> space.
> 5. devise some sort of pickup to feed into that interesting VG-99 
> thing....
>
> Barry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> [mailto:synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of cheater cheater
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:49 PM
> To: synth-diy
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] piano and effects...
>
> Piano -> single input on a polyphonic synth with lowpass filters.
> Synth controlled by pianobar. That's something you want.
>
> Accoustic feedback: directional microphone on the piano -> amp ->
> speaker under the piano. Volume set real low and additional volume
> gain controlled by pedal.
>
> D.
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Barry Klein <Barry.L.Klein at wdc.com> wrote:
>> I see the discussion mentioning the Bosendorfer and recalled a question I
>> wanted to ask.  I recently aquired a wonderful 1917 Steinway M.  Really
>> screwed up the nice furniture arrangement in the living room but 
>> obviously
>> I do not give a sh at t.  Any of you play around with placing microphones
>> (perhaps electrets) in various places on a piano and then running the
>> outputs through your synth, harmonizers, etc.  Could be very fun...
>> Although this one sounds very cool by itself..
>>
>> Barry
>>
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