[sdiy] Random Tone Generator redux
Dan Snazelle
subjectivity at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 26 05:30:41 CET 2009
i am so glad you are excited as me!
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> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:51:03 -0700
> From: lightburnx at yahoo.com
> Subject: RE: [sdiy] Random Tone Generator redux
> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>
>
> Mm, starve controls are awesome. And I'll take your word on being able to branch outputs on the CMOS chips.
>
> In any event, I'm looking forward to Ian's build later in the week, though seeing as I have break this week, I might beat him to it ;)
>
>
> _Kyle
>
> --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Dan Snazelle wrote:
>
>> From: Dan Snazelle
>> Subject: RE: [sdiy] Random Tone Generator redux
>> To: lightburnx at yahoo.com, "sdiy"
>> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 8:25 PM
>>
>> keep in mind i am a guy who loves starving cmos chips and
>> feeding their +V inputs a CV to create sequences ;)
>>
>> i add buffers onto outs if i feel they are critical
>> (precision situations) and leave em off if i am just working
>> up some weird beast that it doesnt matter
>>
>> i suppose i dont mind stuff like loading on non-essential,
>> crazy messed up circuits.
>> in a case like a vco i would worry more about
>> buffering. but in my own personal use,
>> i send one cmos out to a few places all the time. and
>> when i played the MIT version of this circuit on the
>> breadboard, i was able to mess with things in all kinds of
>> ways that were to my liking using the same output routed to
>> multiple places. maybe i come from more of a circuit bending
>> or lunetta mentality when it comes to these small cmos
>> circuits.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> but i think as long as the user is AWARE that they are
>> risking loading, etc, they can always add buffers if it is a
>> critical situation
>>
>> if not...well then just see what happens....as long as the
>> pads arent hard to add.
>>
>>
>> in the end it was just my silly opinion anyway. which
>> tonight is plenty silly
>> :)
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> check out various dan music at:
>>
>> http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
>>
>> (updated monthly)
>>
>> http://www.soundclick.com/lossnyc.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.indie911.com/dan-snazelle
>>
>> (or for techno) http://www.myspace.com/snazelle
>>
>> ALSO check out Dan synth/Fx projects:
>>
>> AUDIO ARK:
>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJRpvaOcUic
>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqIa_lXQNTA&feature=channel_page
>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nJPjGgOcU&feature=channel_page
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:23:41 -0700
>>> From: lightburnx at yahoo.com
>>> Subject: RE: [sdiy] Random Tone Generator redux
>>> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>
>>>
>>> *shrug* If there's room and it doesn't incur much more
>> if any cost for pads, fill 'er up imo.
>>>
>>> If we're talking about unused divider outs on the
>> 4024s, yeah, they're meant for that. But taking a tap from
>> one part of the circuit leading already elsewhere, and
>> you've got a voltage divider (hence the buffer). Think we
>> had some meanings mixed up, heh.
>>>
>>>
>>> _Kyle
>>> --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Dan Snazelle wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Dan Snazelle
>>>> Subject: RE: [sdiy] Random Tone Generator redux
>>>> To: lightburnx at yahoo.com,
>> synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 5:37 PM
>>>>
>>>> id love a klude area but only if it makes sense
>>>> as far as hooking stuff up to the outputs...if
>> they are on
>>>> the chip what is the real danger of using them?
>> maybe with a
>>>> 9v that would be an issue but is the current draw
>> that big
>>>> of an issue with a 15volt modular psu?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and it would just be nice to HAVE the
>> pads...people could
>>>> always hook up buffers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i have never had any chips get warm and i almost
>> always use
>>>> tons of outs on my 4024s but then again i am
>> usually looking
>>>> for pretty weird sounds so i like being able to
>> have the
>>>> options
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> check out various dan music at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
>>>>
>>>> (updated monthly)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.soundclick.com/lossnyc.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.indie911.com/dan-snazelle
>>>>
>>>> (or for techno) http://www.myspace.com/snazelle
>>>>
>>>> ALSO check out Dan synth/Fx projects:
>>>>
>>>> AUDIO ARK:
>>>>
>>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJRpvaOcUic
>>>>
>>>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqIa_lXQNTA&feature=channel_page
>>>>
>>>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nJPjGgOcU&feature=channel_page
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:45:34 -0700
>>>>> From: lightburnx at yahoo.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: [sdiy] Random Tone Generator
>> redux
>>>>> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rock n roll Ian, yay for cheap n quick :)
>>>>>
>>>>> As for kludging, I'd say if there's room left
>> on the
>>>> board that's not filled otherwise, a few spare
>> pads
>>>> shouldn't cost much more, if anything depending on
>> who does
>>>> the PCB. To keep things open ended, if you to
>> expand, I
>>>> reckon just buy more PCBs or have a little
>> stripboard on the
>>>> side.
>>>>>
>>>>> In brief, keep initial costs down, though have
>> caveats
>>>> for expansion (and expenses incurred therein) at
>> the behest
>>>> of the builder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe just have an extra pad adjacent to to
>> places
>>>> where you find interesting sounds out of, though
>> as I've
>>>> said you'll start load the circuit down if you
>> have multiple
>>>> outputs being used at once; that usually equates
>> to a drop
>>>> in volume, and the excess current drawn might cook
>> things
>>>> unpleasantly. LED driver-style transistor buffers
>> ought do
>>>> it... maybe have the kludge space be oriented for
>> making
>>>> those
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken Stone did something like that here:
>>>>> http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgsld.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _Kyle
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Ian Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Ian Smith
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [sdiy] Random Tone Generator
>> redux
>>>>>> To: "synth diy"
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 1:16 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You got that in one Kyle. I like doing
>> things that
>>>> don't
>>>>>> cost too much and you can get a lot out
>> of. I
>>>> thought for a
>>>>>> few minutes to put something crazy like a
>> 566 in
>>>> there, but
>>>>>> it doesn't fit my way of doing things and
>> there's
>>>> easier and
>>>>>> cheaper ways of getting multiple
>> waveforms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll try and post a revised schematic
>> tomorrow
>>>> with the
>>>>>> updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Ian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Naw, not too crazy. That was the
>> multi-tap out
>>>> idea I
>>>>>> had. There would just need to be some
>> poking
>>>> around to see
>>>>>> which points would be the most viable. I
>> can't the
>>>> Boolean
>>>>>> algebra yet, but I bet within the circuit
>> there
>>>> will be two
>>>>>> point having either the same/close eniugh
>> not to
>>>> matter
>>>>>> signal, or something equally benign like a
>> simple
>>>>>> inversion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm all for PCBs too! I like that the
>> parts
>>>> herein are
>>>>>> pretty cheap, all ICs less than a dollar
>> each
>>>> (hell, 50
>>>>>> cents even), at surplus prices.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _Kyle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Dan Snazelle
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Dan Snazelle
>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [sdiy] Random Tone
>> Generator
>>>> redux
>>>>>>>> To: taciturn_unquiet at hotmail.com,
>>>>>> lightburnx at yahoo.com,
>>>>>> "sdiy"
>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009,
>> 12:18 PM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in case my last post didnt make
>> sense.,.i
>>>> would
>>>>>> buy a bunch
>>>>>>>> of these if i thought that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. they had a pad for external
>> clock (and
>>>> i could
>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>> about whether or not your device
>> could
>>>> handle my
>>>>>> clock)
>>>>>>>> 2. it had pads at IC2 out say q1,
>> q, etc
>>>>>>>> 3, it had some pads out at say ic4
>> q3,
>>>> q4,etc
>>>>>>>> 4. it had a pad out at ic6a, or
>> i1d
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bascially then i could use these
>> pcbs for
>>>> all
>>>>>> kinds of
>>>>>>>> weird duties.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i use 4024s with 4051's a lot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and i think the single most
>> powerful
>>>> aspect of a
>>>>>> board like
>>>>>>>> this is how MANY points you can
>> take
>>>> stuff, useful
>>>>>> weird
>>>>>>>> stuff, out of it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> does this make any sense?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> maybe this would be too crazy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> check out various dan music at:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (updated monthly)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.soundclick.com/lossnyc.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.indie911.com/dan-snazelle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (or for techno) http://www.myspace.com/snazelle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ALSO check out Dan synth/Fx
>> projects:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AUDIO ARK:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJRpvaOcUic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqIa_lXQNTA&feature=channel_page
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nJPjGgOcU&feature=channel_page
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> From: taciturn_unquiet at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>> To: lightburnx at yahoo.com;
>>>>>>>> synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [sdiy] Random
>> Tone
>>>> Generator
>>>>>> redux
>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009
>> 13:22:15 -0500
>>>>>>>>> CC:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kyle,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the original is the MIT
>> class
>>>> project. I
>>>>>> trawled
>>>>>>>> through the archive to find the
>> links
>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.media.mit.edu/physics/pedagogy/fab/electronics/old_assignment.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.media.mit.edu/physics/pedagogy/fab/electronics/assignment.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm also going to be posting
>> those
>>>> links on my
>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>> page over at sdiy.org so I won't
>> lose the
>>>> things
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sdiy.org/modius13/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Ian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009
>> 09:51:21
>>>> -0700
>>>>>>>>>> From: lightburnx at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [sdiy] Random
>> Tone
>>>> Generator
>>>>>> redux
>>>>>>>>>> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's another good idea,
>> having
>>>> the board
>>>>>> in and
>>>>>>>> of itself have a degree of
>> modularity.
>>>> There's
>>>>>> potential to
>>>>>>>> cook the random tone gen, some
>> variation
>>>> on that,
>>>>>> or a bend
>>>>>>>> matrix... lot's of possibilities.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You'll get more harmonic
>> content
>>>> with
>>>>>> sawtooth
>>>>>>>> (teeth? heh) waves. The 4046/4024
>>>> waveshaper will
>>>>>> do that
>>>>>>>> for you, though the standard
>> square out
>>>> could be
>>>>>> put into an
>>>>>>>> external VCO's sync, kinda
>> expanding your
>>>>>> palette.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is based off an MIT
>> design,
>>>> right? I
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> find the link myself now, but I
>> recall
>>>> there were
>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>> samples on the page for it...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _Kyle
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Ian
>> Smith
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Ian Smith
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [sdiy]
>> Random
>>>> Tone
>>>>>> Generator
>>>>>>>> redux
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "synth diy"
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March
>> 25,
>>>> 2009, 7:25
>>>>>> AM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think to keep
>> feature creep
>>>> down to
>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>>>> people feel
>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable with I'll
>> set up
>>>> the board
>>>>>> so you
>>>>>>>> can include or
>>>>>>>>>>> omit ins and outs as
>> you
>>>> prefer. I'm
>>>>>> kinda
>>>>>>>> wavering on the
>>>>>>>>>>> suboscillator on the
>> output
>>>> because of
>>>>>> the low
>>>>>>>> range
>>>>>>>>>>> switch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about
>> putting
>>>> the
>>>>>> external clocks
>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>> Schmitts B and C
>> using
>>>> switched jacks
>>>>>>>> normalized for the
>>>>>>>>>>> internal clocks so
>> you
>>>> disconnect the
>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>> clocks by
>>>>>>>>>>> plugging into the
>> jack. the
>>>> question
>>>>>> is, would
>>>>>>>> anything work
>>>>>>>>>>> to clock the 4051s or
>> do I
>>>> need to
>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>> something in to
>>>>>>>>>>> convert an external
>> signal to
>>>> a 0/+5V
>>>>>> square
>>>>>>>> wave?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Definitely using the
>>>> transistor VCA,
>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>> with either an
>>>>>>>>>>> internal modulation
>> using
>>>> another
>>>>>> Schmitt
>>>>>>>> trigger or with an
>>>>>>>>>>> external input.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Outs from the clocks
>> (schmitts
>>>> B and
>>>>>> C) with
>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>> switches to allow
>> clock
>>>> through from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> external clock
>>>>>>>>>>> jacks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I feel obliged to have
>> an
>>>> output level
>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>> because most
>>>>>>>>>>> existing modules don't
>> have
>>>> input
>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>> controls, except
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe some filters
>> that have
>>>> built in
>>>>>> mixers
>>>>>>>> (MFOS). This
>>>>>>>>>>> brings up another
>> qiestion of
>>>> a module
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> multiples that
>>>>>>>>>>> have attenuators
>> before every
>>>> out....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If this was a stand
>> alone
>>>> unit, I
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>> tempted to add a
>>>>>>>>>>> filter or two, but as
>> this is
>>>> intended
>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>> modular unit,
>>>>>>>>>>> no filter.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How do people feel
>> about it
>>>> outputting
>>>>>> two or
>>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>>>>>> different waveforms?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As for sound... I have
>> to
>>>> admit
>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>> breadboarded this
>>>>>>>>>>> incarnation of the
>> thing yet,
>>>> but the
>>>>>> last one
>>>>>>>> I did which
>>>>>>>>>>> had 4020s instead of
>> 4024s was
>>>> rather
>>>>>> trilly
>>>>>>>> between a few
>>>>>>>>>>> of the notes depending
>> on how
>>>> the
>>>>>> clocks were
>>>>>>>> set. I'm going
>>>>>>>>>>> to try to get this
>> version
>>>>>> breadboarded
>>>>>>>> sometime next week
>>>>>>>>>>> because this week is a
>> little
>>>> hectic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Ian
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar
>> 2009
>>>> 22:16:43
>>>>>> -0700
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: lightburnx at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE:
>> [sdiy] Random
>>>> Tone
>>>>>> Generator
>>>>>>>> redux
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been talking
>> to Ian
>>>> off list,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> thus far we
>>>>>>>>>>> got:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -4024 as a
>> suboscillator
>>>> on the
>>>>>> output;
>>>>>>>> individual
>>>>>>>>>>> outs and/or summed
>> staircase
>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> -The bigger
>> divisions off
>>>> the 4024
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> work as CV or
>>>>>>>>>>> gates
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Spare Schmitts
>>>> modulating
>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>> Schmitts A, B, or
>>>>>>>>>>> C with Vactrols
>>>>>>>>>>>> -MFOS WSG tricks,
>> like a
>>>>>> transistor VCA
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Multiple,
>> buffered taps
>>>> out from
>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>> the circuit,
>>>>>>>>>>> pending they give
>>>> dramatically
>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> enough outputs
>>>>>>>>>>>> -External
>> clock/line in
>>>> (again,
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> Schmitts A, B, or
>>>>>>>>>>> C), not unlike this
>> guitar FX
>>>> design
>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/tpe123/folkurban/fuzz/pwm.gif
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As for a dirt
>> simple
>>>> filter, maybe
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> rotary switch
>>>>>>>>>>> with various cap
>> values on the
>>>> output.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> reckon it'd keep
>>>>>>>>>>> feature creep down
>> (not that
>>>> it hasn't
>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> chugging along
>>>>>>>>>>> already) to let an
>> external
>>>> filter do
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And by way of
>> waveshaping,
>>>> there's
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff to be had here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/picsynth/sawtooth.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Main site: http://www.geocities.com/picsynth/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed, I'm
>> curious how
>>>> the beast
>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>> as is too!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _Kyle
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Tue,
>> 3/24/09, Colin
>>>> Hinz
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Colin
>> Hinz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE:
>> [sdiy]
>>>> Random
>>>>>> Tone
>>>>>>>> Generator redux
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "synth
>> diy"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday,
>> March
>>>> 24, 2009,
>>>>>> 9:26
>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Mar
>> 2009,
>>>> Ian
>>>>>> Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a
>> link to
>>>> a
>>>>>> schematic that
>>>>>>>> I drew up
>>>>>>>>>>> for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pseudo-random
>> tone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> generator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sdiy.org/modius13/randtonereduxschem.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting!
>> How does
>>>> it
>>>>>> sound?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>> there's
>>>> anything anyone
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> think of to add
>>>>>>>>>>> to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature-wise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would
>> make it
>>>> a
>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>> module, I'm open
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (trigger
>> outputs,
>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> waveforms,
>>>>>>>>>>> multiple voices
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package,
>> etc.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Output level
>> control,
>>>> with
>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>>>> some dumb
>>>>>>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>>>>>>>> waveshaping
>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> filtering?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Colin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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