[sdiy] SDIY MATH GOALS--need real help!
Dan Snazelle
subjectivity at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 1 23:28:21 CET 2009
anybody seen the microsoft Math 3.0? only 25 bucks... it says it helps you learn as it solves the equations step by step...just wondered if it might be useful.
thanks
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> From: subjectivity at hotmail.com
> To: magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org; synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> Subject: RE: [sdiy] SDIY MATH GOALS--need real help!
> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:43:11 +0000
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> thanks a ton for all that info on which things i need to be able to do,etc
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> great read
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> check out various dan music at:
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> http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
>
> (updated monthly)
>
> http://www.soundclick.com/lossnyc.htm
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>
>
> http://www.indie911.com/dan-snazelle
>
> (or for techno) http://www.myspace.com/snazelle
>
> ALSO check out Dan synth/Fx projects:
>
> AUDIO ARK:
>
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJRpvaOcUic
>
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqIa_lXQNTA&feature=channel_page
>
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nJPjGgOcU&feature=channel_page
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>> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 02:31:36 +0100
>> From: magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org
>> To: dixon at interchange.ubc.ca
>> CC: subjectivity at hotmail.com; synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] SDIY MATH GOALS--need real help!
>>
>> David G. Dixon skrev:
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>> If it's got "d something" over "d something" in it, its differential
>>> calculus (the d's on top and the somethings on the bottom can also have
>>> exponents). If it has a big S-shaped thingy to the left of everything
>>> (often with little numbers or symbols above and below it), with a "d
>>> something" at the far right, its integral calculus. If its got "e" or "exp"
>>> or "ln" or "log", then its an exponential or logarithmic function. If it's
>>> got "sin" or "cos" or "tan" or "cot" or "sec" or "csc", with or without an
>>> "arc" in front or an "h" behind, then its trigonometry. If everything is a
>>> function of "s" then it's a Laplace transform. Alternatively, if everything
>>> is a function of "jw" (where the "w" is really an undercase omega), then
>>> it's a Fourier transform, which is really a Laplace transform where s = jw.
>>> If it's got lots of "j"s all over the place, then its complex math.
>>> Otherwise, it's just algebra! (See how easy it all is?!? ;->)
>>
>> Hehe... the Laplace transform and its variations (Z-transform, Fourier
>> transform and Discrete Fourier Transform) is a very powerful tool. It
>> allows converting complex linear diffrential equations into much simpler
>> things and allows analysis of them. Some of that can be a bit
>> hairpulling still, but it will be much more usefull in the end.
>>
>> Many people having math skills may still fail to recognice that the
>> Fourier transform is a proper subcase of the Laplace transform (they
>> claim that the integration limits are not matching, which they can be
>> made to be) and another approach is to say that Laplace is a side-case
>> to the Fourier transform. Ah well.
>>
>> For filters, it is convenient to learn about the concept of poles and
>> zeros. It is usefull to learn about amplitude responce and phase
>> responce (both being responce of frequency on the jomega-axis) and also
>> concepts of phase-delay and group-delay. When getting used to those
>> concepts some analysis can be made on a conceptual level and guide you
>> in the right direction.
>>
>> While these are the more complex aspects, they are important tools, and
>> sometimes you don't really need to know the inner workings of these
>> tools to make good use of them, you just need to learn the overall plot
>> they give you. Studing them closer and closer to be able to learn them
>> better is recommended as there might be important side-cases you need to
>> learn about, limitations which may prohibit you or enable you depending
>> on how you do things and is actually trying to achieve.
>>
>> As for algebra, you don't need very advanced algebra skills most of the
>> time. You can get away with pretty basic stuff using some tables for the
>> more complex conversions such as those that the Fourier transform does
>> for you. You need to be able to insert values into a formula to
>> calculate a value, you need to be able to modify a formula to take the
>> shape that the value you want is alone on one side of the equal sign and
>> the rest of it is on the other side. You also needs to know how to
>> "insert" a formula into another, to replace some variable by that
>> formula. You will need to know how to reduce unnecessary complexity in
>> formulas. It is usefull to be able to take basic formulas and build
>> algebraic expressions from them. There is a whole list of small formula
>> conversion tricks, all very basic, which can safely be applied. Then
>> again some of them needs some care, as they cannot always be used. Just
>> like a hammer may not be the best tool to hit a drum, or you need to
>> know how to use it properly, as with a screw-driver hitting the trum,
>> tapping with the handle on the drum is far better than hacking with the
>> screwhead side into the drumskin...
>>
>> Math can be fun, when you master it. Also, the more you learn, the less
>> you need to actually remember, as you can figure things out backways if
>> you want to and need to. It becomes easier to convert methods from other
>> fields, which is a method in itself... working with analogies. One
>> should however always recall that we use much simplified models for
>> electronics compared to the complex physical phenomenes we have going
>> on. The macroscopic models are that, models on the large scale of
>> things. To fully understand it you would need to know details of what
>> particles is where in a design, know details of physics still in deep
>> research and resolve the complex equations... which is impossible. But
>> models gives us simplifications which makes us be able to understand
>> most of it... until the limits of the model prohibits us, such as it
>> being a linear and noise-free model for instance.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Magnus
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