[sdiy] Messing with chips with light

Pavel Kirkovsky pkirkovsky at gmail.com
Wed Jul 15 04:45:59 CEST 2009


Samppa,
Can you explain how CMOS chips will fail over time? I have not heard
of this happening anywhere. Flash memory degrades, yes, but this is
something different entirely.

If I extract and drink the CMOS juice will I become an android? ;)

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Samppa
Tolvanen<samppa.tolvanen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In the "Re: [sdiy] More about IC design" thread, Dave Manley wrote:
>>>
>>> This is now a long way from SDIY!
>>
>
> I'll reply on this thread: No it isn't.
>
> If You think of SDIY also as a playground for the techies and the
> preservation of the commercial products.
>
> There are some "precious" instruments that will become brain-dead
> after the mask-rom CPUs run out of their CMOS juice. These will be
> gutted/dumped, if there's no commercial or personal interest doing
> things the hard way of the reverse engineering.. Now, If somebody gets
> the firmware out to burn on the chip, (s)he's a Dollanier ;)
>
> I'm also on personal - consumer level - interested on so-called
> "security" sold to me. Or let's put it the other way:I'm interested in
> hacking things.
>
> A couple of pointers:
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sps32/mcu_lock.html
> http://www.break-ic.com/topics/attack-microcontroller.asp
>
> Samppa
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