[sdiy] trying to understand appregiators in late 70's synths

Paul Maddox paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net
Sun Jan 4 17:38:56 CET 2009


Dan,

yep, though you need make sure it doesn't invert at the same time :-)
You can do the same with MIDI, check out the demo video of GorF (http://www.zoybar.net/video/gorf-019 
) at around 1:35, it's quite handy to be able to do.

Paul

On 4 Jan 2009, at 16:09, Dan Snazelle wrote:

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> how do i SUM two cv sources?
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> is it as easy as sticking the two into a summer opamp?
>
> thanks for the tips guys!
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>> CC: dougt55 at yahoo.com; synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>> From: paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net
>> To: subjectivity at hotmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] trying to understand appregiators in late 70's  
>> synths
>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:19:52 +0000
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> If you don't want to dive into code, being honest you'd be better off
>> with a simple CV/Gate sequencer with the ability change the root note
>> (analogue sum output of CV and output of keyboard). Which is, IMHO,
>> far more interesting musically than an arpggiator.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 4 Jan 2009, at 02:28, Dan Snazelle wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> it's not that i am set on NON midi or on MIDI
>>>
>>> or even that i am set on mimicking anything
>>>
>>> i just want to figure out how the heck to do it!!
>>>
>>> i dont really see the need for it to be midi based though.
>>>
>>> i am more interested in an appregiator that puts out gate and cv
>>> natively and then i could use some other machine to convert that
>>> INTO midi i guess.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> if there is no way to do it without software than i might give up
>>> for a little while at least. i had hoped it could be done
>>> with cmos. but this might push me to learn how to use some kind of
>>> software device. i have thought about learning what the hell
>>> all these pics and microcontrollers can do for awhile BUT i just
>>> dont need one MORE interest that takes all my time right now. :)
>>>
>>> thanks guys
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:09:40 -0800
>>>> From: dougt55 at yahoo.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] trying to understand appregiators in late 70's
>>>> synths
>>>> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl; subjectivity at hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>> The ultimate arpeggiator is the Europa Jupiter-6. Check out all the
>>>> features here -
>>>> http://www.synthcom.com/Europa/support/EuropaUserGuideV1.0.pdf
>>>>
>>>> I think the earliest synth with an arpeggiator was the Jupiter-4 in
>>>> 1979. Anyone know of one earlier?
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Dan Snazelle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Dan Snazelle
>>>>> Subject: [sdiy] trying to understand appregiators in late 70's
>>>>> synths
>>>>> To: "sdiy"
>>>>> Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 1:59 PM
>>>>> for a long long time i have wanted to be able to understand
>>>>> appregiators.
>>>>> only recently have i started worrying that without
>>>>> understanding some programming, i will never have an
>>>>> appregiator.
>>>>>
>>>>> so it was with great interest that i began looking at some
>>>>> old shematics for ideas last week...jupiters,
>>>>> junos.etc///till i realized that i understood almost none of
>>>>> what was going on
>>>>> as it was working with a CPU
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> so...to make a long story short. WHAT is a realtively
>>>>> simple schematic to look at to TRY to understand synths with
>>>>> appregiators?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i suppose the problem is made worse due to the face that
>>>>> without seeing what is PROGRAMMED on the CPU....well maybe
>>>>> this is a useless exercise.
>>>>>
>>>>> i do really dream of having an appregiators for my synths
>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
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