[sdiy] SDIY MATH GOALS--need real help!

[Dan Snazelle]

TIm-as far as the KORN AND KORN book....please dont apologize....that book is excellent!! 

In fact it is one of the books that has really made me fed up of NOT knowing any math.

as stated before, the later electronotes do the same thing...as do so many other great books.

it is a real frustration to KNOW they are talking about something very cool but be unable to understand it.



for
the last 15 yrs i have always just referred to myself as BAD AT
MATH...but electronics is making me tired of that label. and maybe it
was just poor teaching in high school or me being too interested in
things like 4-track recording and video feedback (age 14-18 were wild
times)  to really TRY to learn it.

anyway...please go on
recommending books~~ my sheleves are growing with electronics
references and it is a true joy to keep learning from them





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> From: tim102 at tstinchcombe.freeserve.co.uk
> To: subjectivity at hotmail.com; synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> Subject: RE: [sdiy] SDIY MATH GOALS--need real help!
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:31:17 +0000
> 
>> i feel i have gotten about as far as i can in understanding 
>> many electronic books and topics in the last few years 
>> without knowing ANY math beyond basic pre-algebra.
> 
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> 
> OK Dan, I'm going to offer a wee apology here - having recommended that Korn
> & Korn analogue computing book, and then you posted you'd gotten a copy but
> were having difficulty in understanding the schematics, I pulled my copy off
> the shelf and started skimming the early chapters. I quickly saw that if
> read in the right order there shouldn't be too much of a problem with the
> circuit diagrams (adequately dealt with by a number of responders), but the
> thing that *did* then strike me was that there *is* an *awful* lot of maths
> in there! So I am sorry if I misled you (or anyone else for that matter)
> into thinking it would be a walk in the park! Considering the subject matter
> that is hardly surprising I guess - a certain amount of effort *will* have
> to be invested in order to understand it properly.
> 
> However I totally applaud your resolve to do something about it! Many of the
> comments already posted contain some very good advice, so I'll try not to
> repeat it, but will add:
> 
> - calculus: yes you will need some. Synth circuits are loaded with
> integrators and other things which rely on it, and some basic understanding
> of integration and differential equations will be a boon (barely a day goes
> by without my writing down 'i = C*dv/dt' for a cap and working up from
> there)
> 
> - as already alluded to by others, don't try and learn tons of stuff at
> once: take it in bite-sized chunks; work as far as you can, when you hit an
> obstacle, take off another chunk, read up what is needed to fix that and get
> you going again, and move on.
> 
> And (as already mentioned) it is a shame that so many people get turned off
> maths because they 'can't see the relevance in the real world'. The actual
> maths per se is only a part of it: one of the great things about learning
> mathematics is that it teaches you *how to solve problems*, which is an
> incredibly useful skill in whatever real-world situation you find yourself
> in. I'm currently analysing the effect of all the coupling capacitors around
> the loop in the TB-303 filter (they all add high-pass effects, and I'm
> certain this will impinge into the audio range, and so add to the character
> of the sound): the maths I'm using isn't all that hard, but what *is* hard
> is that I keep getting 'stuck' on something, with little clue as to how to
> resolve it and often for days at time, usually requiring a good deal of
> head-scratching and book reading until my understanding increases to the
> point where I finally become 'unstuck' and can get going again. And usually
> when I do, it is often accompanied with the (often dumb) feeling that it was
> actually quite easy but I just couldn't 'get it' a first sight.
> 
> So yes, these things do take 'application', but the reward is always the
> self-satisfaction of having 'cracked it'!
> 
> Tim
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