[sdiy] Harald Bode collaboration with Bob Moog

Sun Aug 23 12:19:25 CEST 2009

Hey guys,
I've said this time and again, but if anyone needs website help, I'll
be glad to help, as i'm a pro web developer and this stuff is easy for
me.

Back to the topic:
Re the Diana Deutsch link, I really enjoyed the article on perfect
pitch vs. language used, and the 'Cambiata illusion'. I guess the
Cambiata illusion and the Tritone paradox are her works closest to
Bode's barberpole generator work.

D.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Synth.Net<paul.maddox at synth.net> wrote:
> An interesting conversation,
>
> Csaba, did you get your Joomla site back up?
>
> I was thinking that for the qix site just installing wordpress and
> keeping it just as a blog, as 90% of what we're doing is development
> and such and being able to give updates is of greater importance than
> lots of pages. Any pages we need create with downloads,etc we can
> create as "pages" in the blog..
>
> This is assuming that the Joomla site is dead, other wise, I'm quite
> happy to continue with that.
>
> Paul
>
> 2009/8/23 thx1138 <thx1138 at earthlink.net>:
>> On 8/22/09 3:08 PM, "cheater cheater" <cheater00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Terry,
>>> definitely! Have you thought about starting up a blog to write small
>>> articles to? You could do something like.. dig up your old designs you
>>> worked on from the bottom of the drawer, and explain a small part or
>>> module of the circuit... one of those every 2-3 days to keep you busy.
>>> What do you think? I could help you manage the web part, being a web
>>> developer myself. Maybe you could start some DIY projects that people
>>> could follow and make some of your designs? I'm sure someone on the
>>> synth-diy list will gladly help and manufacture pcbs for you etc.
>>>
>>> D.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:26 PM, thx1138<thx1138 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> On 8/22/09 1:28 PM, "cheater cheater" <cheater00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> glad to meet a fellow time traveler. How is the weather in 19885? ;-)
>>>>> Jokes aside, I really enjoyed reading your story. Thanks for sharing
>>>>> that. I knew you had background like that, but didn't realize how many
>>>>> different folks you had worked with. It's really cool. There's some
>>>>> sort of analogue reneissance thing going on. I have spoken with Tom
>>>>> Oberheim over email today and mentioned to him that with his SEM, with
>>>>> Dave Smith's new synths, with the designs from the late Bob Moog the
>>>>> guys are really leading us into an analogue synth revival. Modulars
>>>>> are more and more popular and people are stopping to pretend they can
>>>>> fully emulate analogs - and instead start noticing that digital has
>>>>> things analog can't do, and analog has things digital can't do. I feel
>>>>> the next decade can really be great for analogue synths. Which is
>>>>> great that people like you get back in the fray to talk about how
>>>>> things are done. Do you feel you want to pass on your knowledge to a
>>>>> new generation of analogue enthusiasts? You can count me in for one.
>>>>>
>>>>> With regards to keys, one of the bigger problems is with keyboards,
>>>>> yes, true! I know Yamaha might be an ex-enemy ;-) but I think they
>>>>> sell their keyboard actions as well. Try that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Generally it's good to have you around. Thanks for chatting on sdiy.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>> Damian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 8:27 PM, thx1138<thx1138 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/22/09 11:39 AM, "Magnus Danielson" <magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thx1138 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi SDIY folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I worked with Harald Bode in Tonnawanda NY, while I was on summer break
>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> I was a undergraduate at UCLA in early 1971.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He and Bob were working on projects that Harald had me work on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was converting a Inductor based Vocoder to Active filter designs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was that Haralds design that he did for Bob?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does any one have Harald's Patent info for US and Germany?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My guess is that Harald and Bob had many shared ideas back in those days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you go to http://ep.espacenet.com and search for Harald E W Bode you
>>>>>>> get 20 patents, you may enjoy looking at them (they are available
>>>>>>> directly from there, both US and DE versions). Aaron already gave you
>>>>>>> the number for what is obviously from the title is a Vocoder patent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haven't looked at the other patents, but maybe you will recognice what
>>>>>>> you see there from when you worked together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Magnus
>>>>>> Thanks for your inputs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did not realize at the time that Harald and Bob were onto something that
>>>>>> would consume so much of my life as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went to work for Tom Oberheim while at Graduate school at UCLA. ( I
>>>>>> Studied Music Composition and Sound for Film with a minor in Electrical
>>>>>> Engineering). While working for Tom and Harald I realized that a new field
>>>>>> was opening up for me in electronic Music. I was average in Music skills
>>>>>> compared to Hans Zimmer and such, but these guys became my customers over
>>>>>> the years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I put in a few years at E-Mu in Santa Cruz (Drumulator,Emulator II) and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> on to PPG in Hamburg with Wolfgang Palm for a year. (They went Bankrupt).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Upon returning to the USA in 19885, I discovered that Sequential Circuits,
>>>>>> Moog, ARP,Oberheim and many other innovative US manufacturers were quickly
>>>>>> going out of business.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R&D was a minimal part of their business and the Yamaha, Korg, Roland,
>>>>>> Crumar folks were much cheaper to the musician.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The modular scene was almost a dead item. So I went to work for Motorola
>>>>>> Semi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went back and evangelized our 24-bit DSP to Waveframe, Digidesign, Frox,
>>>>>> Turtle Beach and was able to get a ground swell going for DSP use as a
>>>>>> Synth
>>>>>> product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How to get back to SDIY thread? Well I believe tools and parts and Dev
>>>>>> tools
>>>>>> are to be shared and to get people to start building projects for
>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>> and business.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Floating Point vs Fixed Point. Such an old subject but every now and then
>>>>>> people get all fired up and expound their knowledge on the subject matter
>>>>>> and just crack me up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have build some fine products that I am proud of, but I still itch for
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> undiscovered ways to build hand crafted audio projects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know if Wersi Organ folks are still around? They sell parts
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> can be used to build a keyboard with. Fatar is a real pain to deal with and
>>>>>> I have yet to try Allen Organ or Wurlitzer folks to see if I can buy
>>>>>> Keybeds
>>>>>> for small runs of controllers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for the rambling here, I drank a whole pot of coffee and was feeling
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> bit chatty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Terry Shultz
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>> Hi Damian,
>>>>
>>>> It has been a couple of years since I spoke with Tom. He really gave me my
>>>> first job building synths.
>>>>
>>>> In High School I lived down the street from Fender Music and I did some work
>>>> with Harold Rhodes. He helped me learn Tube electronics at an early age. I
>>>> spent 2 months working with him after my Senior year of High School to make
>>>> enough money to pay Tuition.
>>>>
>>>> I have been lucky to know so many folks like Tom O., Harald and Harold, Dave
>>>> Smith, Dave Rossum, Scott Wedge, Wolfgang Palm and so forth. I am happy that
>>>> Dave Smith re-entered the Synth Market again and I hope he does well.
>>>>
>>>> But my experience needs to get out to others before I forget the ways of
>>>> analog design. I follow this email thread with a bit of appreciation that
>>>> many others are still building good projects too.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Terry
>>>>
>>>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Yes , I have given thought to this and Csaba Zvekan and Paul Maddox and I
>> have begun to stir a bit.
>>
>> I have provided i.MX31 and DSP5637x and DSP5672x Platforms to begin a new
>> ARM11 - DSP Multicore experiment running under Linux.
>>
>> Perhaps this is the Blog that we should write about and I am looking into
>> re-designing some Modules that have not seen the light of day since the
>> early 1980's.
>>
>> So what I have is a partnership in Digital and Analog Audio starting to make
>> it's way into the light.
>>
>> I presently have a design nearing completion. It is needing a final revision
>> for production purposes, but it works and I hope to have it ready by Spring,
>> if finances hold up.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>>
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