[sdiy] Weird op amp features & rules of thumb
Aaron Lanterman
lanterma at ece.gatech.edu
Mon Sep 29 09:04:44 CEST 2008
---> Grant's mentioning of the LM837 got me into looking at various op
amp data sheets, all of which contain various specs. I wanted to make
a mental catalog of weird features outside of the standard specs, just
to make sure that if a circuit used a special weird feature, I paid
attention to that in thinking about substituting op amps (and whether
changes would be needed.)
So far I've come up with:
* 741, 4558, and 4136 have special circuitry to avoid the chip going
boom if the output is short circuited. Grant noted that the 220 ohm
output resistors Buchla uses on many Music Easel circuits was put
INSIDE the feedback loop, and that Buchla was relying on this
circuitry. So if another op amp is used, Grant suggests a typical 1K
output resistor.
* If the voltage difference on the input pins exceeds a magic number,
the TL07x/TL08x do a really nasty phase inversion where the + acts
like - and the - acts like +. For typical negative feedback mode
circuits where the pins try to stay at the same voltage, this probably
isn't a problem, but if it's being used as a comparator (or in a
voltage-starved feedback mode like the Buchla timbre circuits, in
which the op amp can't keep the voltages the same), this could yield
all sorts of vicious nastyness. So blindly plugging in a TL07x/08x for
another op amp may be dangerous and should be carefully considered.
* The 5532 series has some back to back diodes between its inputs to
provide some input protection. That means that it really should be
only used in a negative feedback configuration, as it would make a
crappy comparator, and in particular would NOT work at all in the
Buchla timbre circuit, which uses negative feedback but needs to allow
the inputs to separate from one another.
Any other weird op amp things out there that someone substituting op
amps should be on the lookout for?
---> I'm struggling on when to choose a 5532 type chip vs a TL072 type
chip. After some reading, I came up with the following rule of thumb:
Aaron's possibly nonsensical rule of thumb: In terms of noise, BJT
input op amps are a better choice when being driven by sources with
low output impedances (like other op amps), and JFET input op amps are
a better choice when being driven by sources with high output
impedances (OTAs, expo converters, etc.), and when you don't want the
input current to be doing things like sucking electrons off your
integration cap. (A corrollary of this is that if you really need
minimal input current, you want a MOSFET input chip like the CA3140.)
---> Aaron's usage rule of thumb, based on reading books and stuff:
BJT input amps need that little resistor from the + terminal to ground
when you're setting up an inverter. JFET input op amps don't. If
you're doing a more complicated circuit, you generally just want the
resistances seen at each of the input terminals to be more or less the
same.
Are my rules of thumb on target or off base?
- Aaron
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