[sdiy] VCO design question
harrybissell at wowway.com
harrybissell at wowway.com
Thu Oct 2 14:07:42 CEST 2008
http://www.till.com/articles/VariableSaw/index.html
This is Don Tillman's idea to do this. There are others...
You might want to consider that while the idea is appealing... the sonic
effect of the saw / triangle wave morph is a little weak. Its more of a
subdued version of PWM (imho) and might be underwhelming as an audio VCO.
There will be other discussions in the archives a bout this
H^) harry
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:04:46 -0800, David G. Dixon wrote
> I would like to design a VCO which can morph smoothly from up-ramp to
> triangle to down-ramp, preferably under voltage control. At this
> point I see two options for doing this:
>
> One option takes its inspiration from the Korg MS-20 Modulation
> Generator, and uses two FET switches connecting the expo current to
> either side of a pot, with the wiper of the pot feeding the summing
> junction of the integrator op-amp. The switches are controlled by
> the output of a comparator (the output of which also provides a
> square wave with PWM) and an inverter after the comparator.
>
> By my reckoning, if the up-ramp has the duration R1*C, and the down-
> ramp has the duration R2*C, then the total triangle period should be
> (R1+R2)*C, and since (R1+R2) = the total R of the potentiometer
> (which is fixed) the frequency should not depend on the symmetry of
> the triangle wave. The challenge here is to give voltage control to
> the pot. I'm thinking of an NTE7072 (a dual IC-based DC controlled
> potentiometer), but I'm not sure that it would work, and I'm a bit
> out of my depth. I'd like to avoid digital pots if I could,
> although this may be the simplest and cheapest option. I'm also
> wondering if an LM13700 (dual OTA) could be rigged up to act as a VC
> pot (by somehow using each as a VC resistor and somehow rigging it
> so that their total resistance is constant -- how, again I have no
> idea).
>
> Here's the Korg MS-20 schematic. The Modulation Generator is
> somewhere near the centre of the picture:
http://www.korganalogue.net/korgms/images/service/ms20/circ1.gif
>
> The other option is to build something like what is discussed in
> this paper: http://synth.stromeko.net/diy/SawWM.pdf. This is much
> more complicated, and I'm not sure my (very nascent) circuit design
> skills are up to the challenge of fleshing this conceptual design
> out with actual component values.
>
> I note that Analogue Systems has a VCO which does what I describe --
> see http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/pdf/RS%2095.pdf. I have no
> idea how they achieve it, but I'm guessing it's akin to option 1 above.
>
> Has anyone else on the list tried to do this? Is there an existing
> schematic somewhere that I'm not aware of? Am I nuts for thinking I
> can do this? Any suggestions welcome!
>
> David G. Dixon
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