[sdiy] A major way to improve search engines. How can we implement this?

[Bob Weigel]

(Preface  Rainer and I were having  a side discussion about this but I 
think what I wrote below is pretty crystal clear.  Maybe some didn't 
understand just how great this idea is.... not to blow my own horn but 
hey... this would reduce SO many errant 'hits' on search engines.  Do 
you all understand that I'm just saying DEVELOP A TAG which allows well 
meaning users to START and STOP a section of relevant context?  And in 
thus doing reducing the hits to their site from people who aren't 
looking for context unrelated hits?  eg. replace car keys and 
replacement synth keys on a site that has both car keys and synths for 
sale...)  

Rainer...'wouldn't work' needs to be evaluated.  Obviously what we have 
NOW is absolute unrestrained abuse.  Simply by the fact that nobody is 
kicking off heinous pages (mine should serve as a GLARING reminder of 
*that* to you :-) ) and there is ZERO mechanism for even WELL meaning 
people to set their pages up so that there is elimination of 'false hits'.

So basically I'm saying it *would* work to the extent that well meaning 
people who EMPLOY division tags would be AT LEAST ridding the world of 
*some* errant hits.  WHAT IS THE WORST WAY SOMEONE COULD ABUSE *this* 
PARTICULAR THING?  Ahem...by...NOT USING THEM!! :-)  Any USE of them 
would be context limiting and would REDUCE the hits of the page.

WHAT SPAMMER WANTS TO REDUCE THEIR HITS??  hehe.

Do you follow me?  . -Bob

Rainer Buchty wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Bob Weigel wrote:
>
>> Now...what did you think of my idea of using tags that start/stop 
>> blocks of related information?  That would sure clean up a lot of 
>> mess wouldn't it?  Is there already something in the standards that 
>> does that?
>
>
> Wouldn't work. That's what the META-Tags were invented for -- and they 
> quickly got abused.
>
> Take emission test cycles for instance. In Germany, the emission tests 
> are standardized. So what do the motor electronics do? They detect the 
> test cycle and fall into a special test mode which don't have to do 
> anything with real driving.
>
> Same goes for the META-Tag, which was used to fool search engines. 
> Also the NOSCRIPT and NOFRAMES tags were abused for fooling search 
> engines into drawing the wrong conclusions.
>
> So the search engines started ranking the interlink factor of a page, 
> only to see that spammers started setting up bogus websites just 
> liking to each other (much like eBay rating spam, often enough you 
> find interesting prices for synthesizers, just to see that the guy 
> selling it is rated by someone who's rated by another who was rated by 
> the first guy...)
>
> Hence, Google came up with a rather clever ranking algorithm, not only 
> checking for certain words but also how they are embedded into the 
> remaining document.
>
> Unfortunately, such measures seem to be the only way to go cause any 
> user-friendly solution will automatically result in evildoers abusing 
> that system.
>
> Rainer
>
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