[sdiy] why does google suck SO bad for finding my parts? Yahoo is on it!

Johannes Öberg johannes.oberg at gmail.com
Sat Oct 25 19:03:12 CEST 2008


The ealier thread got too hostile for me so I didn't respond to what I
felt was insulting language (from you) but to defend my deciscion to
respond the way I did: if you make your web page easy for humans to
navigate, search engines will index you better. There's no way around
that since search engines are continually improved to emulate humans
better. Making your page better also has lots of side benefits
obviously.

As much as I share your sceptiscism towards centralized government and
globalist language, W3C has actually been very useful. The CSS2 and
xhtml standards changed the web (for the better).

As a normal person or small business, you don't have to pay W3C. You
pay them to become a member of their association, so you'll get their
services, some influence over decisions and to get information early
on.

And if you don't want to follow the W3C recommendations, you don't
have to. But their recommendations are usually good. Imho.

Your idea of tags that indicate what search engines should look for
doesn't work. Metatags were originally supposed to serve exactly that
purpose. They were quickly abused of course. As would any similar
solution be.

Therefore the only long term solution is to make a nice page. Which is
what we were trying to tell you.

/Johannes


On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Bob Weigel <sounddoctorin at imt.net> wrote:
>   For-profit organization that has annual gross revenue, as measured by the
> most recent audited statement, of greater than or equal to 50,000,000 USD.
>       68,500 USD
> All other organizations, including not-profit organizations and government
> agencies.    7,900 USD
>
> There are the fees for US people joining this wonderful...W3C service?
>  AHem.... Those are yearly dues I believe?  At first I was trying to figure
> out it if was $7.90 thinking "That's..pretty steep considering they aren't
> doing really...anything for me that I can figure out yet...."  Not to
> mention it's littered with globalist mindset lingo.
>
> FYI some of us crazy yanks still believe that it's best government be kept
> to a more local level.  So that there can be CONTRAST in the world. And
> people can MIGRATE from oppressive cultures to ones that are free if they so
> choose to undertake the journey.  Sadly the globalists are trying to sell
> America into being just another pawn in their manipulation web.   Some of us
> still OWN everything we have humble though it may be, rather than going in
> to bad debt etc.   Some of us HELP those in need directly instead of whining
> for the government to do it.
>
> Ok back to DIY stuff?  Again I really appreciate the good advice given and
> am in process putting some of those things to work.  PLEASE DIRECT ALL
> FURTHER COMMUNICATION ON THIS DIRECTLY TO ME since we've probably well
> saturated the useful aspects of the topic here.   Samppa...direct all your
> further communication for me to dev/null as always.  Thanks.  -Bob
>
> Bob Weigel wrote:
>
>> PS I didn't even know what W3C was.  Apparently some group attempting to
>> establish international 'standards'?
>>
>> If you're in tight with these people maybe you can shop my idea of having
>> a code that marks the beginning and end of a section of html so that
>> crawlers can tell what they should and should NOT associate, so as to avoid
>> the noted types of bogus 'hits'.  Do they have something like that already
>> in place?   Provide link if so and I'll immediately employ it where I can on
>> my site.   -Bob
>>
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