[sdiy] why does google suck SO bad for finding my parts? Yahoo is on it!

[Bob Weigel]

Like I say...I appreciate any constructive help.  I'm a service tech not 
a site designer.

However I INTENTIONALLY left it with a lot of text... because it loads 
quick and tells people what they are looking for hopefully in most 
cases.  It was designed so people can get the information that they want 
in the fastest time possible.

My site is simply the best in the world at doing that. TO call it 
'HORRIBLE' seems strange Nate :-). If there is a better comprehensive 
site somewhere..please give me the link.  Every time I get a link for 
the "Matrixsynth" page or whatever for example, I look through AIMLESS 
amounts of junk and RARELY find anything I'm looking for.  *That* is a 
"Horrible" site in my estimate because I've rarely found what I'm 
looking for and it ALWAYS almost comes up with a HIT!  That is 
absolutely Horrible!

On the other hand I get orders from people DAILY who thank me for having 
a resource that nobody else has.  IN SPITE of Googles crappy method of 
scanning through the text that is there and just freaking LISTING IT.  
So again..my question was simple.  Why doesn't some of the stuff show up 
AT ALL?   Isn't that what a crawler does?  Doesn't it create a database 
that when someone searches for text on any page it finds 
it?????????????  WHY THEN DOES IT NOT FIND SOME STRINGS....AT ALL?  !!  
That's all I'm asking.  And as always if anyone has constructive content 
to add let me know. At this stage of the game I'm probably not going to 
change the format. -Bob

Nate Reeves wrote:

> i agree the site is HORRIBLE (no offense bob!)
>
> hardly blame google for dumping this site at the bottom of anything,  
> it really needs a once (or twice) over....
>
> cheers
>
> nate
>
> On Oct 22, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Rainer Buchty wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Bob Weigel wrote:
>>
>>> With google...I'm not even listed.  At all.  4 pages of irrelevant  
>>> links. What is wrong with them?  Why are they the 'best' if they  
>>> don't work worth a crud on simple text stuff like this? -Bob
>>
>>
>> Uhm. Just out of curiosity (and because I found Google's ranking  
>> algorithm rather superior for the way I phrase my search requests) I  
>> was browsing your pages, and, frankly, I'm fully with Google here.
>>
>> Where's your shop!?
>>
>> It may just be me, but I somewhat expected to find it under "SD  
>> Shop", so I clicked on that.
>>
>> However, there I find some text and photos. Shop photos. Studio  
>> photos. Maybe it's the "Synthesizer Assistance"?
>>
>> No. I just find more text. A friggin lot of text, I might add.
>> But there's links to Manufacturers.
>>
>> I'm sorta biased, so I click on Ensoniq.
>>
>> Oh no! Even more text.
>> Maybe with clicking on one of the listed manufacturer products?
>> Let's click on ESQ1. Or SQ80. (Mind you, I'm biased.)
>>
>> But, no. Still no parts but more text. And links.
>> (And incomplete citations from SDIY, I might add...)
>>
>> But there's a parts locator, which by the link color tells me that 2  
>> of 3 links have already been visited. Ah, yes. They point back to  
>> the synthesizer page I'm already on. Loop, see loop.
>>
>> So I go for "keys", cause that's the one I haven't visited yet.
>>
>> Yeah! It seems to point into your key inventory page. So let's track  
>> back whether the main inventory page is linked from somewhere?
>>
>> Oh, it indeed is. But I had to search for a while to find it as it's  
>> buried in your "Synth Assistance" page under loads of text.
>>
>> I'm running 1600x1050 here and am not known for using particularly  
>> huge fonts (rather on the contrary), still I find that link  
>> somewhere around the second page of text disguised as "here's a link  
>> to help locating parts including [text...] some of my semiconductor,  
>> key, and misc inventory [much more text]"
>>
>> And you wonder why Google, which does not just use a pure link daisy  
>> chain analysis but rather a more sophisticated, context-sensitive  
>> analysis does not find your stuff?
>>
>> Even humans easily fail that Turing test you liked to set up with  
>> your pages!
>>
>> To make a long story short: if you want your page content to be  
>> found, your page shouldn't play hide and seek with human and  
>> electronic visitors seeking for information.
>>
>> Rainer
>>
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