[sdiy] drilling pcb boards...sore throat

[Sean Ellis]

I have gotten hot solder in the eye, it doesnt tickle ;-) Have been paranoid 
about eye protection ever since.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Lorentz" <robert.lorentz at gmail.com>
To: "Dan Snazelle" <subjectivity at hotmail.com>
Cc: "synth DIY" <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [sdiy] drilling pcb boards...sore throat


>I do because solder tends to splatter from time to time, and because
> when I'm doing through-hole there's a lot of lead-clipping and of
> course I don't want a piece of metal flying in to my eye.  I'd think
> glasses are fine for this
>
> i was careless about all this stuff until about 2 years ago I was
> mowing my lawn and ended up getting a wood chip kicked up in my eye
> and causing a huge amount of pain and a major cornea scratch..... came
> out of it all fine but certainly left an impression on me that I won't
> forget!!
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Dan Snazelle <subjectivity at hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
>>
>> wait...we are supposed to wear eye protection when we solder? do glasses 
>> count?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> check out various dan music at:
>>
>> http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
>>
>>
>> http://www.soundclick.com/lossnyc.htm
>>
>>
>> http://www.indie911.com/dan-snazelle
>> (or for techno) http://www.myspace.com/snazelle
>>
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:43:38 -0400
>>> From: robert.lorentz at gmail.com
>>> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] drilling pcb boards...sore throat
>>>
>>> i've been using the .022 'silver' rosin-core solder from RS. i *love*
>>> the smell of it burning. i rarely catch any disagreeable smells,
>>> although while it's burning up and smoke is coming up I typically blow
>>> air on it to blow it away from my face...
>>>
>>> should I have any concern with these fumes? i just do this in a
>>> smallish room with central HVAC running, so no ventilation or
>>> anything. I solder on average 8 hours a week
>>>
>>> i already wear eye protection, having a fan may be nice but seeing as
>>> how they are loud then i'd also have to wear ear protection to be
>>> safe... this is starting to add up and would like to know where is
>>> actually sensible to draw the line (before I end up getting in a
>>> contamination suit.. only to be called away from my work 2 minutes
>>> later which happens so frequently)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Dan Snazelle  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> thanks mark
>>>>
>>>> and everyone else too
>>>>
>>>> i had a sore throat most of the day but it seems to be gone now. i got 
>>>> a GOOD scare and often that is what one needs to re-asess their working 
>>>> habits. i am going to order a good mask and also a good solder smoke 
>>>> sucker upper.
>>>>
>>>> i need to remind myself that as relaxing as soldering is...those fumes 
>>>> are no good either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> anyway...sorry to bring up such a bummer of a topic!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> check out various dan music at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.soundclick.com/lossnyc.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.indie911.com/dan-snazelle
>>>> (or for techno) http://www.myspace.com/snazelle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:59:28 -0500
>>>>> From: marr at lumin.us
>>>>> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] drilling pcb boards...sore throat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's possible that Dan got some irritation from the dust. He may have
>>>>> overdone it. Please see the first 10 seconds of this video and judge 
>>>>> for
>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_GPmpEhPMk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> where is the data on fiber-epoxy dust?
>>>>>
>>>>> Conclusions from studies are inconclusive about the dangers of the
>>>>> fibers. They do not appear to be overtly carcinogenic THUS FAR, but 
>>>>> the
>>>>> official word is "possibility of carcinogenic in humans" which 
>>>>> basically
>>>>> means they are keeping it up in the air (n.p.i.) because studies have
>>>>> been inconclusive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely take measures to protect yourself from the dust. Doesn't 
>>>>> seem
>>>>> to me, from reading the documentation, that a few incidents will be a
>>>>> problem, but IANAD. The reality is that this stuff isn't food and 
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> natural so avoid it within reasonable means.
>>>>>
>>>>> MSDS are available from the supplier or an upstream supplier. 
>>>>> Examples:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.isola-group.com/images/file/GetekFR4LaminateMSDSDecember2006Final.pdf
>>>>> http://www.injectorall.com/MSDSFR4.htm
>>>>> http://www.supresta.com/pdfs/FYROL-FR-4-MSDS.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> The gist of these is NOT "you're definitely going to die from your DIY
>>>>> habit", but they are definitely saying that you should take all means
>>>>> reasonable to contain and avoid the dust.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan, I would just change your working methods and not sweat it. 
>>>>> Probably
>>>>> want to give your room a good dusting with a wet cloth or one of those
>>>>> microfiber rag thingamajigs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
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