[sdiy] drilling pcb boards...sore throat

Robert Lorentz robert.lorentz at gmail.com
Sat Oct 18 15:09:30 CEST 2008


I do because solder tends to splatter from time to time, and because
when I'm doing through-hole there's a lot of lead-clipping and of
course I don't want a piece of metal flying in to my eye.  I'd think
glasses are fine for this

i was careless about all this stuff until about 2 years ago I was
mowing my lawn and ended up getting a wood chip kicked up in my eye
and causing a huge amount of pain and a major cornea scratch..... came
out of it all fine but certainly left an impression on me that I won't
forget!!


On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Dan Snazelle <subjectivity at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> wait...we are supposed to wear eye protection when we solder? do glasses count?
>
> thanks
>
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>> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:43:38 -0400
>> From: robert.lorentz at gmail.com
>> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] drilling pcb boards...sore throat
>>
>> i've been using the .022 'silver' rosin-core solder from RS. i *love*
>> the smell of it burning. i rarely catch any disagreeable smells,
>> although while it's burning up and smoke is coming up I typically blow
>> air on it to blow it away from my face...
>>
>> should I have any concern with these fumes? i just do this in a
>> smallish room with central HVAC running, so no ventilation or
>> anything. I solder on average 8 hours a week
>>
>> i already wear eye protection, having a fan may be nice but seeing as
>> how they are loud then i'd also have to wear ear protection to be
>> safe... this is starting to add up and would like to know where is
>> actually sensible to draw the line (before I end up getting in a
>> contamination suit.. only to be called away from my work 2 minutes
>> later which happens so frequently)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Dan Snazelle  wrote:
>>>
>>> thanks mark
>>>
>>> and everyone else too
>>>
>>> i had a sore throat most of the day but it seems to be gone now. i got a GOOD scare and often that is what one needs to re-asess their working habits. i am going to order a good mask and also a good solder smoke sucker upper.
>>>
>>> i need to remind myself that as relaxing as soldering is...those fumes are no good either.
>>>
>>>
>>> anyway...sorry to bring up such a bummer of a topic!
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:59:28 -0500
>>>> From: marr at lumin.us
>>>> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] drilling pcb boards...sore throat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's possible that Dan got some irritation from the dust. He may have
>>>> overdone it. Please see the first 10 seconds of this video and judge for
>>>> yourself.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_GPmpEhPMk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> where is the data on fiber-epoxy dust?
>>>>
>>>> Conclusions from studies are inconclusive about the dangers of the
>>>> fibers. They do not appear to be overtly carcinogenic THUS FAR, but the
>>>> official word is "possibility of carcinogenic in humans" which basically
>>>> means they are keeping it up in the air (n.p.i.) because studies have
>>>> been inconclusive.
>>>>
>>>> Definitely take measures to protect yourself from the dust. Doesn't seem
>>>> to me, from reading the documentation, that a few incidents will be a
>>>> problem, but IANAD. The reality is that this stuff isn't food and isn't
>>>> natural so avoid it within reasonable means.
>>>>
>>>> MSDS are available from the supplier or an upstream supplier. Examples:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.isola-group.com/images/file/GetekFR4LaminateMSDSDecember2006Final.pdf
>>>> http://www.injectorall.com/MSDSFR4.htm
>>>> http://www.supresta.com/pdfs/FYROL-FR-4-MSDS.pdf
>>>>
>>>> The gist of these is NOT "you're definitely going to die from your DIY
>>>> habit", but they are definitely saying that you should take all means
>>>> reasonable to contain and avoid the dust.
>>>>
>>>> Dan, I would just change your working methods and not sweat it. Probably
>>>> want to give your room a good dusting with a wet cloth or one of those
>>>> microfiber rag thingamajigs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
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