[sdiy] DRILLING TEMPLATE/GUIDE??? Front Panel Designer

Csaba Zvekan czvekan at gmail.com
Tue Jul 22 11:17:04 CEST 2008 

Ohh I see that makes perfect sense. I didn't think of that. I had  
exactly a problem like that where the scale was being covered by the  
knob . Because it was to small.:(
I guess if I had the knob designed with it would have been obvious  
that it needed to be enlarged.
So I guess I have to prepare my parts knobs, switches, LED's . Can we  
make a pool or library somewhere available where people can share the  
parts that we all use.

Csaba
On Jul 22, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Matthias.Herrmann at jeppesen.com wrote:

> synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl wrote on 07/22/2008 10:46:35 AM:
>> This is probably a dumb question. Why are you guys making knobs and
>> display it with Front Designer? Aren't the markings of the poti (the
>> scale ) enough? And drilling. I wouldn't want a knob engraved on my
>> panel or am I missing something here ? :)
>
> since the schaeffer panels are quite expensive (at least for me) i  
> want to
> be sure that all components will fit - not only the knobs and  
> washers and
> whatnot on the front, but the bodies and solderlugs on the reverse  
> side.
> i.e. a 4 pole on-off-on switch won't need much space on the front  
> but for
> the reverse side it is another thing...
> so it is good to have rectangles and circles that show the measures  
> of a
> components body. you don't want it to be engraved for sure, so one  
> would
> have to delete them before sending the file to schaeffer!
>
> BTW i am doing all the front panels of my DIY with FPD.
>
> cheers,
> matthias
> ___
> www.fonitronik.de
>
>>
>> Csaba
>> On Jul 22, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Tom Bugs wrote:
>>
>>> Probably the most valuable tool I got since beginning to use
>>> FrontDesigner was a cheap set of digital calipers off ebay - cost
>>> under £10 inc postage, I think.
>>>
>>> Yes, its a bit of a sweat, but you gradually begin making your own
>>> library -> I've made knob templates, but also 16mm pot templates
>>> (just to check that things fit), switches etc (with markings showing
>>> typical hole size & size of the washer & switch body size). You'll
>>> also get to know your parts a load better this way too (fnar).
>>> I don't think anyone has particular libraries 'cos everyone uses
>>> different standards....
>>>
>>> The libraries that came with FrontDesigner were totally useless!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> Dan Snazelle wrote:
>>>> Ok
>>>> I am trying to use Front Panel Designer but it looks as if you must
>>>> MAKE all your own objects. This is hard for me as i dont know how
>>>> to figure out what size hole (or area for labels,etc) to use for
>>>> the toggles i get from futurlec, the pots i get from futurlec, vs
>>>> the ones i get from allied,etc. i think i normally use 16mm pots
>>>> (which i assume means i would draw a 16mm circle?)
>>>>
>>>> but what about rotary pots? and LEDS? how big a circle for those?
>>>>
>>>> I was sort of hoping that it would be similar to EAGLE where you
>>>> have a library of parts. But the library that came with it is about
>>>> three parts long.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am having a real dilemna as i am trying to figure out how many
>>>> pots i can realistically fit on a panel 19" across by 10.5" tall.
>>>> so i not only want to draw the drill holes but the AREA that they
>>>> might take up with a knob. is this possible?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am i Missing something? are there libraries i missed?
>>>>
>>>> thanks so much
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: czvekan at gmail.com
>>>>> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>>>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] (MOTM style) DRILLING TEMPLATE/GUIDE??? ready
>>>>> to start makng better looking panels
>>>>> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:40:50 +0200
>>>>>
>>>>> Ohh my god . I just reinvented the wheel. This is so awesome. In
>>>>> Front
>>>>> Designer we only have to change the pen to engraver or mill what
>>>>> ever
>>>>> you need. I have chosen 0.3 mm engraver. Then changed all objects
>>>>> with
>>>>> that pen. Exported the thing to a *.plt file. Imported it with
>>>>> LazyCam
>>>>> and it calculated like a minute or less and voilà my Gcode was
>>>>> generated and I can see my design in MACH3. Awesome! . Now I know
>>>>> how
>>>>> this is being done. A thirty bucks program Front Designer and  
>>>>> and a
>>>>> 125$ gets me engravings. This is really cool. You made my day,
>>>>> Tom . :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Csaba
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 20, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Tom Bugs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have Mach3 on this computer so can't check, but I've used
>>>>>> FrontDesigner outputs to engrave panels with Mach3. You import
>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>> through, if my memory serves me right, EasyCam that comes  
>>>>>> attached
>>>>>> to Mach3 (or it did in my case). I can't remember the exact  
>>>>>> details
>>>>>> offhand, but I didn't need any extra software, just FrontDesigner
>>>>>> and Mach3
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csaba Zvekan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also I always wondered how to make a G-Code out of a HPGL  
>>>>>>> file. Is
>>>>>>> there a converter?. I am using MACH3 has anybody some  
>>>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>>> I really would like to engrave my panels with my DIY CNC in the
>>>>>>> future. I just don't know how ? Or would I import it in AutoCAD
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> re-import in MACH 3 ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Csaba
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Samppa Tolvanen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Tom Bugs wrote:
>>>>>>>>> And there's also FrontDesigner from Abacom (www.abacom-
>>>>>>>>> online.de)
>>>>>>>>> - only 30euro or so
>>>>>>>>> This *may* be more versatile than FrontPanelDesigner as you've
>>>>>>>>> got more
>>>>>>>>> exporting options including HPGL for engraving / milling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At least it does scales automagically (Not a big deal in FPD
>>>>>>>> anyway).
>>>>>>>> HPGL originates from pen plotters, but I haven't found a driver
>>>>>>>> thats
>>>>>>>> output is treated good by FrontPanel Designer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.emachineshop.com/ also has a fairly simple free CAD
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> mechanical design with .dxf support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Samppa
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