[sdiy] Brain filling in fundamental

Samppa Tolvanen samppa.tolvanen at gmail.com
Thu Jul 17 03:27:29 CEST 2008


Hi all,

>
> I don't believe that is what is meant by "6 cents is what the human ear can
> perceive".

Did I forget..

> Maybe I'm totally wrong, but 5 or 6 cents of mistuning won't sound sour or off or
> bad when played in an ensemble of other properly tuned instruments.  You'll hear
> the phasing, even if it's different by 1 cent or less, but it won't sound like a
> 6th grade band concert.  In fact, I tune synth instruments or VCOs a teensy bit
> off on purpose to get fatness.  Sometimes I tune them off more than 6 cents to
> make it sound sour on purpose - if that's what the art I'm attempting demands.
> But regardless, I can hear it, and probably all of us here can.
>

Yes, to say relative. No one has claimed it to be relative.. just
something You can hear. Equal temperament scale, I guess the most of
as use, wasn't that good anyway.. and maybe we like 5ths because of
that ;)

> It may also have to do with pitch memory.  Play a note that is dead on.  Then play
> one that is 5 cents off the previous note, with some seconds of silence in
> between.  Can you tell the difference then?  Not sure, but I'd guess not if the
> notes are close enough.  I'd also guess that everyone's threshhold of detection is
> a little different.
>

I don't know. I can't play guitar, so I'll start beat tuning it, once
someone is stupid enough to hand it over. If there's no reference to
tune against, it's just "Gimme Cee--e" from the music class, or what
my memory recalls.. (probably off by few semitones) and after that,
guitar chords still sound like guitar chords do sound like ;)

Samppa



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