[sdiy] Phase shifts and instantaneous frequency
Ian Fritz
ijfritz at comcast.net
Wed Jul 16 00:19:27 CEST 2008
At 02:26 PM 7/15/2008, Tom Wiltshire wrote:
>I did try it, and as expected I hear a repetitive throbbing in the
>resulting tone. The 1Hz effect is clearly visible in the wave;
Thanks for trying it!
>http://www.electricdruid.com/beatwave.jpg
>
>Since I can see a 1Hz effect in the waveform in front of me, I'm not
>entirely convinced by your explanation that this is only a non-linear
>effect of our hearing. It looks to me like my ears are picking up a
>1Hz variation which exists in this waveform.
The phase difference will, indeed, produce a different summed
waveform. But the power spectrum is unchanging, i.e. there is always the
same power in each component. So if the ear's response is linear you
should hear a steady tone. This is the usual argument that is used to
claim that relative phase shouldn't matter, even though the waveform itself
changes.
I convinced myself of the nonlinearity by changing the volume level. You
don't hear any beats at low levels and they become quite strong at high
levels. You could also try putting each component wave in just one ear
(using a headset). The beats will disappear if you do that.
>Also, claiming that something that changes at 1Hz is "Quasi-static"
>and therefore says something about waveforms that don't change at all
>seems a bit disingenuous. No-one ever claimed an LFO isn't
>oscillating just because it goes down to 0.1Hz!
No, but consideration of appropriate limits is used all the time in physics
and math. Sure, you have to be careful doing this. The point is that you
can approach the static limit as closely as you like by making the
frequencies closer and closer to 2:1. When you do this you will still hear
the same beats. The quasistatic procedure is used because it is hard to
compare separated sounds. Anyway, the effect can't be "pitch bend". But
if you don't like the limit argument, you can construct two signals with
2:1 frequencies but different phase shifts. According to the original
research of the 1870's, you will get the largest difference if you use a
quarter wave phase shift. You can splice these signals alternately to hear
the tonal difference.
>I don't understand what I'm hearing exactly, since the sum and
>difference frequencies are so far wrong, but it does seem like I'm
>hearing what I see.
Yes, it may seem non-obvious, but you are not hearing what you
see. Because what you hear will vary with amplitude and because if you
present the signals separately to your ears you will not hear the beats.
>Can you clarify what is going on?
Good questions. Hope this helps!
Ian
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