SV: Re: SV: RE: RE: re: [sdiy] Freescale Soundbuite

[karl dalen]

paul!
--- paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net skrev:

> > Did you read what various people had to say in the stomp box forum link?
> > The fine print are that if its going to be publically accepted no one
> > wants to depend on HW that's linked to a company as it is their IP.
> 
> which I find kinda funny.
> I mean, nobody depends on anything from a single vendor.
> like say, Microsoft or Intel ;-)

I guess they are afraid that the company might withdraw the platform later on!

> It'll be interesting to see how portable the code is from the TC to the
> SB, only time and trial will tell.

Any idea which symphony model TC uses?

> It depends on your ultimate goal. Why people pay 1000's of pounds for a
> monophonic synth is beyond me (think Moog Voyager and family). But, people
> do, because they feel it gives them what they want.
> It's about choice as much as cpu power.

They want imagined *fat* and an intact *user illusion*! :-)

> I think it's a good idea, consider (aside form the front panel) that you
> can use a common PCB and parts list for *ALL* modules, how much does this
> drop your manufacturing costs by? I bet its a huge drop.

I wouldent mind it too,i allways asked for a decent DSP in a SO14 package
with internal sysclk and stereo codecs, the only who have come close are
the FV1 chip. A modular application would fit it as hand in a glove.   
 
> it also lowers development costs, who ever makes them could have one
> 'open' board and code/adjust/tweak until they're happy. then make a front
> panel and sell the modules. again, lower cost to develop and build means
> lower cost to the end user!
> 
> > Thats not a fair comparing!
> > It's like compare a rowing boat and a oil tanker.
> 
> hehe, kind of.
> But again, consider how much cargo both can hold.. and imagine the oil
> tanker is less than the cost of the rowboat. If you want to move stuff
> from one country to another, which are you going to pick?

A steamer! :-)
 
> > My experience so far with this outsourcing kind of bussiness are that
> > it sounds fine untill you actually start to disscuss the end cost of
> > the whole outsourced manufacturing. For instance we could refer to such
> > a simple thing as front panels and what Grant once said about this
> > manufacturing of front panels.
> 
> yep, I agree, but again. DIY isn't about money...
> My monowave cost me around £450 each to build, you could buy a mass
> produced monosynth for less. I don't do DIY because it's cheap.

hehe, so you do it because its expensive?

Anyhow, you did quit doing the MW after 75 pieces
stating soldering was not your name of the game. ;-)

> > To make this happening under current tax system forget US,EU its going to
> > be in ASIA, former est block countries or elsewhere, etc.
> 
> yep, a single PCB for Tempest was going to cost me around $1000 in the UK
> for 100 of. In Taiwan, it was $125.
> 
> > Just look at Walldorf, they single handed has killed not only the
> > aftermarket
> > of the Bloofeld it self but every single synth they have made previously.
> and?
> maybe I'm missing the point, but what has a coroporate companies business
> decisions got to do with DIY?

It was a reflection over some previous issues Barry mentioned.
Besides its not entirely diy we are talking about here. One, quote:

> yep, a single PCB for Tempest was going to cost me around $1000 in the UK
> for 100 of. In Taiwan, it was $125.

100 units? Is that strictly diy?

KD


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