SV: Re: SV: RE: re: [sdiy] Freescale Soundbuite

[karl dalen]

Paul!

--- paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net skrev:

> Karl
> 
> > Whats the point with this if soft tools not entierly in public domain?
> > Are the Eclips based symphony dev tools GNU or do one have to buy the set?
> 
> I beleive they're free to download and use, but the code isn't open source.
> I should be getting one soon, I'll let you know what I find if you wish.

Please do!
It seams that one can download the sympony tools from the FS web page, 52 meg.
 
> > But isnt that a bit boring? All modules are a DSP module with 2 x16 LCD?
> > No? Gape on a LCD? Wasnt the ide behind modulars to get away from that?
> 
> maybe I'm being daft but modulars came before DSP and LCDs didn't they?
> And the idea behind modulars was that you bought 'modules' as you required
> them (or as you could afford them).

I dont argue against that, quite correct as you say but im a bit reluctant
having a huge modular consisting of LCD's? That would be a bit daft! :-)

> > But who will manufacture those DSP boards?
> 
> Ermmm, you could get them from somewhere like PCB-Pool, no?

I think Barry meant to have a complete board, populated with components
and all for 30usd or similarly!? No?

> > They have to make some money out of it and volumes has to be moderately
> > high!
> 
> Errmmm, part of DIY is not doing stuff for profit. or did I miss something?

Actually i dont exactly know what Barry meant, i asumed he wanted something
off the shelf, ready to go, since he didn't want to do multi layer PCB's!?
We have to wait and see on what he actually meant!

> > Freeescales dev board are 2 layer wich is nice, 4x5 inch,6ch audio in and
> > 6ch
> > audio out , a expansion header, so if everyone agrees to that design you
> > have
> > a standard platform to work from, however i have no clue what it might
> > cost?
> 
> isn't their a BOM with the board design?
> It wouldn't take long to get a price per board.

Hmm, your right, there must be some docs at FS web site, have to look again!
 
> > Hmm, its going to be a software synth behind a aluminium face plate.
> 
> awww, come on..
> Why is it people have a problem with DSP synths, but they're happy to
> listen to music via MP3s, their computers, CD players and cable/satalite
> TV (all of which transport audio digitally!).

Hmm, i dont know what you meant by awww come on, what i said was just a
statement to what it was, there are no judgment in it.I dont have any
particular problem with DSP synths, perhaps others have, if it was that
you meant? I use them all day on my PC, some are bad some are less bad
and some are good. Please expand your sight a bit Paul, it was not that
narrow thing thats discussed here in the fist place.

>SP synths offer a degree of felxability that is unobtainable by discrete
> analogue hardware.

Yes. We all know that, and what is your point?

> A well designed DSP synth can sound as good as an analogue synth.

Absolutely. No one has argued against that so what is it you wanted to say?

> FWIW, I don't care what makes a sound I like, as long as I like the sound.
> 
> If someone does manage to build a module to fit , for example, the MOTM
> format that has a DSP that can be programmed that's gotta be a good thing,
> hasn't it?

Yes and no!I dont know, **synths** just seams to be narrowing it self in!?

> I'm not having a dig at you, but at the 'snobbery' that surrounds analogue
> Vs Digital synthesis. We're here to make synths, not discuss didgital Vs
> analogue.

Sorry to hear Paul but it seams that you have misunderstood my posting
entirely,
*it might seam* snobbish and DSP boho, but its not, to the contrary it was just
a tiny reflection over *synth's* regardless if they where analog or digital.
Please read my posting from a *reflectional* view instead of adding in your 
own anti analog biasses/prejudices into the interpretation of my posting.
Thats why i used the word *hair dryers* instead of synths you know.

But mostly it is a ongoing discussion on question Barry raised, PCB, cost,
tools etc, etc. Its not a Dig VS Ana discussion, no idea from where you got
that impression. Jusst because some one are bored with DSP dosent mean that
one arent also bored with Ana, one can be bored at both! Barry  said he
was bored with VCO's that have 4 waveforms, i to are bored by them, however
im also bored by some DSP's synths who just recycling it self over and over
again. :-) See?

Come on now Paul, dont take disscussions to seriously, its nothing
evil meant,people has to complain about things from time to time. :-)
Even you do!

Reg Cheers!
KD

Ps: i still want that Bloofeld does all box i described, it would be very nice!


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