[sdiy] Reproductions of Vintage Synth Parts (how are they made?)
flightofharmony
flight at flightofharmony.com
Wed Dec 10 17:34:58 CET 2008
Because they have to pay someone hourly to do it. And if they're union,
"that's not in my job description".
The drawbacks of big shops. :)
Best regards,
~flight
flight at flightofharmony.com
http://www.flightofharmony.com
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: synth-diy-bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl [mailto:synth-diy-
-> bounces at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of Bob Weigel
-> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:45 PM
-> To: synthdiy
-> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Reproductions of Vintage Synth Parts (how are they
made?)
->
-> I know I've seen some of the facilities. It's still stupid that they
-> don't have (since they have all the materials there) a much WIDER range
-> of things they'll accomidate for more reasonable prices. For example
-> they might actually make a better hourly rate quoting someone on making
-> 20 crude knobs like these on the ARP quartet for ya know. Say somebody
-> just wanted the plastic form and they were willing to drill the holes
-> for the shafts and goop them on. All those people would have to do is
-> take a clay that is designed for this...lube a part and jam it down in
-> them 20X. Take a device made to dispense the plastic and pour it in the
-> holes. Let it set up. Hand it to them in a bag and get the 80 bucks.
-> I'll bet that would take them all over 5 minutes to make the mold, 5
-> minutes to pour....!!! WHY are people so freaking dumb is I guess what
-> I'm asking! :-) Why don't they want to make 400 dollars per hour when
-> the have the gear right there instead of wasting time talking to you
-> about ordering 4000 of something that they know you aren't going to go
-> for at a cost of 3400 dollars or whatever?
->
-> hehe. I guess I'm more accomidating in my business. And if I did that
-> kind of business I would actually probably do a run like that for 34
-> dollars for someone if it is as easy as I think it would be. Then a
-> person whose lost all their slider caps like one I have here right now
-> could go in and get them at ar reasonable price. Bore them and paint
-> them in another hour and have 80 bucks into a set of knobs you can't
-> get...but which would look identical to stock pretty much and would
-> increase the value of the instrument 140 dollars. There are just tons
-> of things like that an innovative person could do if they had a facility
-> already set up to do bigger tasks. Why not when it takes less time to
-> do it than to talk to someone about not doing it? :-) -Bob
->
-> Ben Lincoln wrote:
->
-> >I imagine that for mass-production, the maker is actually machining
metal
-> >to create an injection mold. I assume they're using CNC, which means
-> >having a CAD/CAM engineer model the mold and then transform it into
-> >instructions for the robot. So it's time-consuming *and* requires
skilled
-> >labour.
-> >
-> >It does mean that once you have the tooling, making individual parts is
-> >very cheap, as the listed prices attest. The results are also much more
-> >consistent than garage-molded parts, as much as I like garage work.
-> >
-> >On Tue, December 9, 2008 11:47 am, Bob Weigel wrote:
-> >
-> >
-> >>I don't know why mold make is so expensive for some parts. Especially
-> >>if you have a pattern and it's a tapered part that can be jammed into
-> >>the clay w/ a little silicon on the surface...and pulled out. The two
I
-> >>poured last night...one was pretty good and one had a major bubble but
-> >>that was because I was using epoxe and it was hard to 'knead' it into
-> >>the holes :-). But I think I got a useable one when it dries
-> >>completely. Overnight it's still pretty plastic feeling. When it
-> >>hardens to where I can machine it I should be able to just drill a
shaft
-> >>hole and goop it onto the shaft and nobody will ever know the different
-> >>unless they tear it off :-). -Bob
-> >>
-> >>
-> >
-> >
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