Re [sdiy]: commercial use of other peoples boards (was: Should I

[Dan Snazelle]

thanks for great advice

my value was ALSO that i spent  months figuring out the best way to get the guitar controlling the synth which i dare say works really damn well now. that was the main thing i did. only with cookbooks and i stand by it as mine. (you know what i mean. i mean something i dont want others to steal without asking)

the asm would only be useful if i could have its modules interact the way i need them to 

which as long as they have sufficient cv ins should be easy. worst case, i order it to use for basics and then do the rest on stripboard or hom etch. sounds great to me. i would really only need the 


well heck

here are ALL the front panel controls (minus the rotary cv routing stuff)



row one:

A1- GAIN
A2-DRY/WET
A3A-IN SEL A/B
A3C GATE SELECT A/B
A3B LAG (R2R/EF/AR)
A4-FREAK (1)
A5A- 1 ON/OFF
A5B- 3 ON/OFF
A5C- 2 ON/OFF


ROW TWO


B1-ATTACK
B2A-HI/LO
B2B=GATE/HOLD
B2C-AB/rand
B2D-INF HOLD
B3-DIVISION 1-1/2/3/4/5/6 (ROTARY)
B4 -LAG (2)
B5- fx send

ROW THREE

C1-RELEASE
C2-SENS
C3-DIVISION TWO-1/2/3/4/5/6 (ROTARY)
C4 CHOKE (3)
C5 VCF GAIN

ROW FOUR

D1-TIME
D2-FLW ATK
D3-ENV DEPTH
D4A - STP/SMTH
D4B-1V OCT ON/OFF
D4C- FLWER IN(INPUT OR STEP)
D4D-RANDOM IN NOISE/INB
D5-CUTOFFF

ROW FIVE

E1-PITCH
E2A-HI/LO
E2B-SYNC ON/OFF
E2C-TRI/SQ
E2D-SYNC IN A/B

E3-SLEW
E4-RANGE
E5-RESONANCE




ROW SIX

F1 CV DEPTH (LFO)
F2 CV DEPTH  (VCO)
F3  LFO 2 SPEED)
F4A CLOCK:LFO2/R2R
F4B MIX SEL:INF HOLD/R2R
F5 CV DEPTH (VCF)

ROW 7

G1 (LFO) SPEED
G2A SQ/HI
G2B VCA IN:LFO/DIV/AR
G2C HI/LO
G2D MIX SEL-CLN/DRTY/RING
G3 OFFSET
G4 VCA IN GAIN
G5 FX RETURN


ROW 8

(MIXER)

H1 DIV1
H2 DIV2
H3 SELECT (IN/RING)
H4 VCO
H5 INF/R2R


ROW 9

I1 RING rotary (see diagram)

I2 Lfo rotary (see diagram)
I3 R2R (see diagram)
I4 A/R (see digram)
I5 Master Vol

J1 LAG ROTARY (see diagram)
J2 PLL ROTARY  (see diagram)
J3 VCO ROTARY  (see diagram)
J4 S+H ROTARY   (see diagram)  
J5 MASTER VOL  (see diagram)







lfo 1

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> From: neil.johnson97 at ntlworld.com
> To: jhaible at debitel.net; synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl; Matthias.Herrmann at jeppesen.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Re [sdiy]: commercial use of other peoples boards (was: Should I
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:08:52 +0000
> CC:
>
> Hi,
>
> As I see it there are two issues here.
>
> 1/ Buying a PCB, stuffing it and incorporating it into a product you want to sell
>
> That is perfectly fine - you have paid for the PCB, it is yours to do with what you want. So building it into a case and selling it as a product in its own right is fine, even with your name on the front. You have not copied it, you have not violated any trademarks, you have not infringed anyone's patents.
>
> 2/ Buying a PCB, copying it and selling the copies
>
> That is clearly infringing the copyright in the PCB artwork. You cannot do this unless you have the permission of the rights holder.
>
>
> As an example, suppose 'Joe' buys my Jen SX1000 MIDI kit. Fine, I've made my money, they get a populated PCB. If they then offer a service to install it in someone's synth, thats fine. If they sell it on, perhaps via eBay, that's fine. If they install it into a Jen and then sell that on, that's fine.
>
> What is not fine, indeed illegal, is to copy the board and firmware and then sell those copies. That clearly falls under copyright infringement and I can exert my rights as the copyright owner to force them to stop.
>
> Also, if they pretend to be me, then that too is illegal - its 'passing off' (or 'palming off' in the USA).
>
> Anyway, anyone contemplating starting up a business proper and having such legal questions is strongly advised to speak to a solicitor/lawyer rather than rely on the advice of a bunch of synth geeks :)
>
> As for Dan's situation, I would say his added value (i.e., what he is being paid for) is in him doing the building work for his customer, so buying in modules and/or PCBs should be OK.
>
> Neil
>
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