[sdiy] SSM2040

Bob Weigel sounddoctorin at imt.net
Sun Nov 4 06:59:15 CET 2007


I heard Harry once took a whole box of TDA1022 and MN3008' and ran over 
them with a steam roller with a small condenser mic bundled into the 
middle of them just to capture the unique sound that those particular 
chips make together when they are crushed!  He said that it never has 
the same 'grit' and 'bite' if you mix in some MN3007's or SAD1024's, 
though there were variations between production runs.  Ok not really but 
it's not hard to imagine is it? Hehe.

I think the reason a lot of us pursue the 'hobby' is that we hear 
something of the depths of creation crying forth through these circuits 
and there are some subtle differences in the way things are put together 
that either allow those to come through or not.  I like the 2040's 
musical qualities a lot too.  But them again the Yamaha IG00156 has it's 
virtues and the Moog has it's....and the 2044 has it's as well as the 
3320. .  3328's are cool in their own way too I think.    And probably 
some of the clone attempts have theirs and maybe they are within spec to 
where they are indistinguishable in all ways and maybe not.  I'm no 
expert on that.   -Bob

bayne d'artagnan wrote:

>On 11/2/07, Jason Proctor <jason at redfish.net> wrote:
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>>well we could go on hairsplitting and taking apart each other's
>>semantics for a long time and get nowhere.
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>>why don't you sum up your position like this and we'll call it even. OK?
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>The summary is pointless Jason, I'm not splitting hairs, I made my
>thoughts clear. I use chips, you use chips, I'd say a LOT of people on
>here use chips. Some of us make up excuses why their particular usage
>is ok while trying to claim that others usage isn't, some of us don't.
>It's really that simple.
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>Your claim that there is no alternative to the 3320 is absurd. It's a
>filter, there are hundreds of filter designs available. Ah, but none
>that sound exactly (or almost) the same. Well, sound is but one
>criterion and it's the one that you choose. For many building is as
>much a part of the joy as playing and ease of build is every bit as
>valid a criterion. In fact, any reason that anyone chooses to use a
>chip is valid for them.
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>Nobody owes anyone else their chips and just about everyone one here
>believes that even if they don't say it. Actions speak louder than
>words and if you have a chip in a  module you have no business
>lecturing others about what they should do with their possessions. If
>you choose to own vintage polysynths then it's your responsibility to
>make sure that your choice is a viable one and you still have no
>business laying claim to the possessions of others.
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>As I said early on in the conversation this is pure ideology that some
>of you are trying to spoon feed to others. There is no practical
>reason whatsoever to not use chips in personal designs. The fact that
>the price of them is as low as it is, and far below perceived value
>for some of us, suggests that the supply is adequate to meet the
>demand.
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>Thomas decided to use his chips for what he wanted. Great! That's what
>we should all do. I expect that when they're worth $500 each then many
>of us we'll make different decisions. But, the reason will be the
>same, we'll make the decision because it's what WE want to do, not
>because someone else believes that we have some obligation to an
>imaginary shortage.
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