[sdiy] SSM2040
ASSI
Stromeko at compuserve.de
Sat Nov 3 01:03:24 CET 2007
On Freitag 02 November 2007, Barry Klein wrote:
> take a read of this discussion:
> http://www.edn.com/blog/1700000170/post/1850011785.html
>
> Read the last two paragraphs. How is it going to be inexpensive to
> make your own IC? How would any of us, even if we had 10K$ even
> proceed? I suppose there is some university teaching this stuff but
> it is not common knowledge otherwise. Are they hinting it will be?
On IC design and having prototypes made. If you know the right people
you can even get a few mm² on a testchip mask set for free, as there's
always some slack that can't be filled otherwise. Dicing and packaging
isn't all that expensive either. Most universities have taken part in
prototyping programs (MOSIS, Europractice, etc.) and have produced
impressive results for comparatively small money - a handful of
packaged chips for around $3k was one example I witnessed while still
at the university. What Don is apparently hinting at is that for
smallish analog circuits you don't really need all the expensive CAD
tools that are normally used to design much more complex chips - you
can go from idea to GDSII data just using free software with a little
bit of extra effort compared to the industry-grade tools.
Things get much steeper when you want to go from prototyping to
production - the NRE cost kills you unless you have something that
needs to be produced in millions of pieces and can be sold quickly.
The only viable (and proven) route to small-scale production I've seen
so far is http://www.arraydesign.com (brainchild of the venerable Hans
Camenzind of '555 fame). One problem of the 700 series is the
relatively bad pnp, but hey the 3080 didn't have a good pnp either.
The CEM chips were based on an earlier incarnation of that same idea
(wafers probably run by GEC Plessey) - if somebody could send me a
non-working (but not burnt out) CEM chip, I'd open it to make a die
photo...
Anyway, running a single lot would probably cost around $10k and yields
between 15k...250k untested dies. Factor in capital, yield, test and
packaging cost and some margin and an IC done that way will cost around
$10-$15 to the end user (perhaps not surprisingly, that's the price
that Doug Curtis used to call). Not at all bad, but of course not
affordable to the average single person - but quite certainly within
reach for a small company.
Just found this, BTW: http://curtiselectromusic.com/
Achim.
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