[sdiy] - Service Manual Project -

[Robert Weigel]

It's obviously work to copy manuals as Mark does and he should be payed
for that.  He's not compelled to scan all the manuals and make them
downloadable.  The manuals are often not available from other sources so I
can't see what illegality might be involved there...nor am I interested in
finding out and if everyone had that attitude corrupt lawyers would be in
the soup lines where they belong :-)

Meanwhile companies that do scan them and sell them online like Musicparts
overcharge a bit it seems to me since they charge about the same amount
don't they?  But hey it's a free market and again they are doing a service
that isn't available elsewhere on some things.  Certainly all the defunct
companies wouldn't care.  Roland or Yamaha for example may have legal
rights if they offer their stuff to shut down that distribution I don't
know.  They restrict diagrams to service techs and the techs have to
promise not to distribute them to get them.... so....morally something is
being stolen if those are up without permission it appears.  -Bob

> ( 5th try posting ...this time with URL's removed in Legal section... )
> Is ANYONE getting this??
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to thank everyone for their valuable help, suggestions, general
> in-sight & volunteering of services / files.
> No doubt, every concern is valid & deserves some careful thought.  At
> this point, it's actually a little overwhelming but a very interesting
> challenge to say the least.
>
> -- Legal --
>
> Rainer: " copyright expires after 50-70 years " is this in references to
> the USA specifically ?
>
> I wonder if sites that openly SELL vintage service manuals have legal
> clearance?
> eg:
> ManualManor, musicparts.com etc.,
>
>
> -- Sale of Archive on Evil bay etc. --
>
> Unfortunately, this is an inevitable side effect & I don't think there
> would be anyway at all to stop this type of activity.
>
>
> -- Centralized vs. Distributed --
>
> Obviously, I think the advantages of a large centralized archive are
> numerous.
> I think that one of the biggest benefits of this project is that it
> allows the pooling / sharing of individual resources & bringing it all
> together in ONE spot ( mirrors aside ) for everyone to benefit on a
> worldwide basis.
> The keywords... Centralized, Organized & Available..... Like I mentioned
> earlier.. the Napster of Vintage Service Manuals
>
>
> -- Client / Server Model vs. Peer to Peer ( Bit Torrent ) --
>
> This is an interesting one, with many advantages & dis-advantages for
> both models.
> My own personal experiences are based on the Client / Server Model ( eg.
> 1 or 2 main FTP servers with 3 to 4 mirrored servers ), so I always tend
> to lean in that direction but ...never say never... It's very difficult
> to accurately estimate the size this archive, but I'm sure it would be
> substantially large, which I think would more of an argument towards the
> Client / Server Model.
>
>
> The discussion continues...
>
> Thanks,
> Mo
>
>
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