[sdiy] Polysynth considerations
Nicholas Gregorich
nicksdsu at mac.com
Mon Dec 3 01:06:58 CET 2007
Wow I wouldn't have guessed those are laid out by hand. I've never used
anything but CAD.
Five voices lets me keep a couple CEMs to build modules out of, which
interests me. I'm also attracted to 6 voices because of the two 3-note
chords argument.
Bob: your voicing scheme sounds interesting as it would give the synth a
wider range of uses. Unfortunately I've never liked multi-modes on
synths but maybe its time to learn how to use them properly. ;)
I will use digital oscillators for the first synth, for cost/simplicity.
I have not decided the exact arrangement I will be using though.
Thanks for the input. I'll be back with more questions after I get this
project off the ground!
Nick.
Jim Patchell wrote:
> I am in the progress of doing the same thing....although these two boards:
>
> http://www.noniandjim.com/Jim/pictures/vco.jpg
>
> http://www.noniandjim.com/Jim/pictures/vcf.jpg
>
> were layed out and stuffer about 20 years ago now... :-)
>
> I have five of each...so I was planning on doing a 5 voices, which I
> felt would be plenty, plus the more electronics you have, the more
> headaches you will have getting it all working.
>
> The parts used on the boards are:
>
> CEM3340, CEM3330, CEM3350, CEM3360, and CEM3310.
>
> I was going to use a backplane connected to a 6502 based micro processor
> board...but if I ever get around to finishing this, I will probably use
> an ATmega128 or 2561.
>
> By the way, these are probably the last PC boards I did by doing a tape
> up....(that was not done with CAD). I remember that they were a real
> pain in the neck to do. When you are doing a tapeup, if you don't plan
> well, sometimes you run into a tight spot...which I did...I sure love
> using CAD a lot more...
>
> -Jim
>
> Nicholas Gregorich wrote:
>> I am interested in building a polysynth or two with my recently
>> acquired CEM chips. I am having a really basic problem: deciding how
>> many voices I need/want.
>>
>> I've owned and played a fair number of synths, but I never stopped to
>> think how much polyphony I use. I am not much of a player, more of a
>> programmer, so my technique does not depend on the number of voices
>> available.
>>
>> I rarely grab two hands of chords, but I do like long-release pads.
>> Voice stealing can actually be useful in these types of sounds, for
>> example 16 voices of Andromeda with long release can turn very mushy.
>>
>> I did not plan to include anything fancy like splits or multi-timber
>> controls but I could be convinced otherwise. I guess I don't use these
>> features enough to implement them.
>>
>> There are a couple duophonic synths out there, but that would be too
>> limiting. A few 4 voices too, this might be the lower limit of
>> "acceptable" polyphony. There's a certain famous 5 voice (who's newest
>> sibling has 8 voices) and a lot of 6 voice synthesizers. I don't know
>> of any 7 voicers, but quite a few synths have 8 voices.
>>
>> So I guess I'm looking for some insight. Do people find the Jupiter 4
>> to be short on voices? How about the Prophet 5? There are so many
>> synths with 6 voices, but are they noticeably more useful than a 5
>> voice? Eight might be too much for me.
>>
>> Nick.
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