SV: Re: SV: Re: [sdiy] Camel*ont* soft Da synth!

[Magnus Danielson]

From: karl dalen <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>
Subject: SV: Re: SV: Re: [sdiy] Camel*ont* soft Da synth!
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 00:00:41 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <20060503220041.84670.qmail at web25510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

> 
> --- Magnus Danielson <cfmd at bredband.net> skrev:
> 
> > From: karl dalen <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>
> > Subject: SV: Re: [sdiy] Camel*ont* soft Da synth!
> > Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 23:31:38 +0200 (CEST)
> > Message-ID: <20060503213138.73231.qmail at web25510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- Paul Maddox <P.Maddox at signal.QinetiQ.com> skrev:
> > > 
> > > > Karl,
> > > > 
> > > > >I know Paul M is found of it, its a good idea but
> > > > > i cant really understand it!
> > > > 
> > > > :-)
> > > > 
> > > > > They say:
> > > > >
> > > > > :We even resurrected the MIDI engine from the Atari ST
> > > > > :to give the Chameleon the tightest timing.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.chameleon.synth.net/english/chameleon/
> > > > >
> > > > > Why? Really strange marketing claims, i mean who want to
> > > > > run the *old* internal 68000 ST midi handling on a Coldfire?
> > > > 
> > > > actually, it's the MIDI-SHARE thing that handles all the midi, and it's
> > (a) 
> > > > very quick and (b) damned easy to use :-)
> > > 
> > > Yes, but why do they then put in that Atari ST 68B50
> > > (reffering to anyway) marketing crap in there!
> > 
> > Oh... that's what all MIDI cards for the C64 that I know of is made from! :-)
> > 
> > Goot old MC6850, no FIFOs or anything. :O)
> > 
> > Actually, the MC68B50 is overkill for MIDI, plain MC6850 will do it nicely.
> 
> Right, and no baud rate clock either! 

Ah... that is *almost* right, I will actually agree with you since there is no
_REAL_ baud rate clock thing which would make it directly usefull, but you can
actually change the clock division from /1, /16 and /64. Woopie! Three baud-
rates programmable!

> Holy crap!

For the C64 MIDI application it was just right. For other MIDI stuff, well, if
you only do UART you can still use it, but lack of FIFOs can be annoying and
makes software much more pain in the but than it needs to.. For general serial
it should be considered a retired oldtimer at the best.

For a new commercial design, using it should be considered a misstake. It is
large, bulky and needs alot of support compared to what modern UARTs sitting
onchip somewhere will do.

Cheers,
Magnus