[sdiy] pining for old oscilloscope (weird LFO's)
anthony
aankrom at bluemarble.net
Mon Aug 21 22:59:07 CEST 2006
Today I'm really needing to look at LFO waveforms on my scope and this 60
MHz doesn't want to do it. I mean it CAN do it - it just seems liek the
phosphors are way to fast to be of much use. At around 8 Hz I can see a
square wave and sine wave shape quite plainly albeit faintly. I think my old
Heathkit would have been FAB for this.
I'm looking at various stages of the LFO waveform of my DOD R-870
Flanger/Doubler. Tweaking this unit is becoming problematic because the LFO
seems to be a sinewave ultimately derived by a squarewave oscillator which
shapes it with a big cap and a resistor (integrator).
The problem is that trying to use this as a normal flanger is very
unsatisfactory because it doesn't make long sweeps. It just doesn't sound
"right". And this being a rack unit I have a ton of parametrs to tweak and
none of them sound right when trying to gert a flanger sound. However,
chorus and vibrato are superb. But I've been having bad luck getting the LFO
speed to go faster. At first I had a problem with the LFO ticking, but I
matched some resistor pairs for a couple of voltage dividers related to this
circuit (and the regen) and that fixed several problems.
I actualy think it's probably pointless to bother with the flanger part
because this unit has an MN3005 for the doubler part and that's where I
spend most of my time. It's like having a Boss DM2 with all the controls of
a Boss BF2 and more (or maybe I should say like a DOD 585 and a DOD 575...).
I like the analog delay sound so much more than digital (and I really really
like the way my Digitech PDS2000 sounds). I just wish it had 2 or 3 MN3005's
instead of just one.
The way the clock works is kinda screwy too. I think using an SAD512 and an
MN3005 together is a bad idea. They realised that they should send the
single-phase clock to the SAD512 before it gets divided by 2 for the MN3005,
but the SAD512 divides its clock by 2 as well. So really although it looks
like a 20kHz-400kHz clock is going to the 512 it's really only a
20kHz-200kHz clock. That + the sine waveform = not a good flanger. I
wouldn't gripe except I don't have a usable flanger that I like. I have been
considering making a Bad Stone clone because stackign up a lot of BBD
effects almost always results in clocks interfering no matter how hard I
try.
BUT what would be a good way to get this kind of LFO to go faster AND make
smoother slow sweeps?
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