[sdiy] sources of hum and hiss in a solid state guitar amp (LM1875) (slightly OT)
anthony
aankrom at bluemarble.net
Sat Aug 12 22:28:36 CEST 2006
I've been so impressed with the performance of the tube amp that I just made
that I am now completely unsatisfied with the performance of my Epiphone
EP800R solid state 15 watt amp. The hiss and hum on it are atrocious. But
since it has a cheesy but super-cool spring reverb I've been willing to
overlook this. I'm sort of at a loss on where to start.
I do not have any sort of empirical baseline performance experience data
because when I got this amp at a Pawn Shop it was a total basket case. The
PC board and one of the pots was broken. I did a really good job fixing the
board, but I only had a 100kOhm pot that would fit where the 250kOhm pot
that broke was - that may be a small part of the problem. What happens is
there's a lot of hiss at high gains and at various points along the the
travel of the gain and volume controls. Added to the mix is what sounds like
some garbled oscillations at various points. This also is prominent when the
reverb control is turned way up (which is really all the time since lower
levels are virtually inaudible). What it ends up happening is a sound much
like what you get from a BBD device with the lock running really slow. But
of course there are no BBD's anywhere inside.
The preamp looks like a Tubescreamer except the clipping diodes are 2 red
LED's. I changed these to 4 red LED's and 4 Ge diodes - symmetrically. This
mod didn't change the hiss and hum (as would probably be expected). The
original op-amp was an NJM4558 (the newer ones with with a 5-digit date
code). I switched this to an NJM5532DD, but this actually sounded a lot
worse. (The 5532 was also a newer 5-digit date code unit - I don't think any
of their newer parts are up to snuff.) I replaced this with an older
JRC4558DD whcih was a little better and I liked the tone from it a lot so I
kept it in. I don't think I like the way LED's clip so I think I'll be
making a small board with around 10 Ge diodes on to fine tune asymmetric
soft clipping while retaining a relatively high level of clean headroom.
That was really the first thing I didn't like about this amp when I got it
going: it clipped way to early. Since I already have a rad distortion pedal
I don't need to pretend this is a tube amp (OK so maybe giving it
asymetrical soft-clipping is pretending it's a tube amp, but oh well...). I
only used LED's because it was easy to get a lot of headroom with few
diodes. Too bad it sounds like crap... I think I'd get great tone with a
bunch of Ge diodes with only a difference in one or two diodes. I've tried
experiments using Si in combo with Ge and concluded that all Ge diodes sound
better (but this was in a pedal that used diodes to shunt the signal to
ground).
The power amp is an LM1875. I read a little about these and was surprised to
see people using them in sort-of hifi DIY audio. Actually I guess the
preferred chip is the LM3875. Anyway I had thought of either swapping in an
LM3875 or increasing the power supply voltage. It looks like this amp is
using a PS voltage a lot smaller than the max rated PS voltage. I'd
actually prefer to not have to buy any new specialty chips - especially if
I'm not even sure I'll like the result.
I'm really having a problem justifying keeping it as a solid state amp -
especially given my early success getting a great-sounding amp. It has this
cool tweed covered box and just about the perfect number of controls for
what I'd want on a tube amp. (The only thing lacking would be tremolo
controls, but reverb has priority over tremolo anyways.) There's a schematic
for a perfect amp with tons of gain and reverb and everything on the AX84
site. But I think - since I have enough Mullard EL84's - I want to do a
push-pull amp: something like an AC15 or a GA15 with reverb. I'll still have
1 EL84 left over to make a single-ended amp (or mod an Epiphone Valve
Junior - which is most likely what I'll do with it...) I'm not sure if the
reverb spring in this amp will work with a tube amp. But that's not really a
big deal since I want a "surfier" spring anyway.
The big problem with making a push-pull tube amp in this enclosure is that
the enclosure is a lot smaller than I'd like to mess with, so if anything
I'd probably just end up making a simple single-ended 7W amp and save the
pair for a 12" combo.
But in reality that's not really a simple solution to the problem at hand.
What I need to do is figure out where the hiss and hum are coming from and
do things to fix those. I had thought of putting an LM380 amp right before
the reverb spring because the reverb on this amp is wimpy. That made me
ponder how maybe at least PART of my problem is impedence matching. I
noticed that the clock hiss from my DOD flanger/doubler is horrible with my
solid state amp (even way down the chain), but barely perceptible with the
tube amp (and sounding way sweeter with the tube amp). I guess it's obvious
that the major source of hum to eliminate is the power supply. I have some
good caps to put in so that's easy. The jacks are isolated from the chassis
so no worries there.
What would be the best way to cut down on hiss and oscillation while
maintaining the best possible tone for a guitar amp? It just now occured to
me that maybe the LM1875 is a source of hiss and maybe reducing its gain
(and making up for it in the preamp since I actually modded it for more
headroom anyway) would cut down on the hiss a lot.
I could - even using the existing power supply - make a preamp using a
12AU7. I have some sweet RCA side-getters that would be perfect. Getting a
quite tube preamp seems more staightforward to me at this time. Maybe I'm
missing something.
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