[sdiy] Bass Sounds - was Moogey jitter

[Tim Daugard]

From: "Paul Maddox" <P.Maddox at signal.QinetiQ.com>

> True, but then, what I want to do with my bass guitar and it's sound is
> different to what a lot of others want to do.
> I'll be having by bass modified to suit my wishes once I've finished
saving
> for the mods.

This is where I came in! I wanted to create new sounds and had a bass.
Everything in a modular synth system is applicable except maybe the VCOs
(and noise gens?) I built my system to enhance my bass sound.

HOWEVER, as the point has been made (over and OVER - just catching up on
all the mail) if we know what is causing a sound, it is much easier to
analyize and create something new to produce the sound - or at least get
close. I've read books on the sound characterstics of all the instruments,
books on effects, and books on patches, all to create new patches for my
sound. Occasionally, I have to design and build a new module to achive
something I didn't have the capability for.

Knowing the subtilies of the circuits help in this design. I'm going to
have to build a Fuzz Face type circuit to listen to, because straight
analysis is missing something on that circuit.

> > Completely knew sounds will confound the listener.
>
> possibly, though perhaps they may also 'interest' the listner?
> for example, upon my first listening to Tangram by Tangerine dream, it
> wasn't the analogue pads, or CP70 that struck me, it was this brash harsh
> 'digital' sound that grabbed my ears, I later found it was from a PPG.

21st Cent. Schizoid Man anyone? When I first had it and listened to it as a
kid, it was pure noise to me. Now that someone in my band wants to do it,
it sounds more old fashoned than noise.

> > There has to be balance between the familiar and the new, which sort of
> > enforces musical evolution rather than revolution.
>
> Possibly, but then you look at people like John Cage, and his music, I
> wouldn't call most of that 'evolution' that is most deffinatly
'revolution'.

Rock & Roll was more the revolution, and yet the masses keep drifiting back
to the comfortable (Britney Spears anyone?) John Cage was still trying to
be in the idiom of serious music.


> > Or a marketing exercise - not specifically a synth product, but this
sort
> > of
> > http://www.digitech.com/products/HendrixPedal/Hendrix.htm
>
> hehe, cashing in on a name.
>
> > Like, Jimi's technique had nothing to do with it - you just have to
> > convolve
> > the master tapes and superimpose it on a $50 korean strat copy...
> > Misuse of DSP in that way should be a capital offence.
>
> well said, on both counts.
>
> > And you didn't have to sweat blood to get it...
>
> Agreed, but a simple UI doesn't imply a simple synthesis technique.

An full circle . . . if we can analysis a sound (or at least a signal
path), then we can reproduce the sound. It doesn't matter if it's done with
a DSP, a different digital method, or analog, the goal is the sound.

So how DO I make the (pretty much) triangle wave from my bass sound like a
Moog?

Tim Daugard
AG4GZ 30.4078N 86.6227W Alt: 12 feet above MSL
http://home.sprintmail.com/~daugard/synth.htm

Who is losing his mind from wading through all the STUFF y'all put up while
I was gone for a week. The next trip is 2+ weeks - I'm in trouble.