Re(Harry): [sdiy] stupid scope

jhaible at debitel.net jhaible at debitel.net
Mon Apr 10 10:50:24 CEST 2006


> My HP scope did this once... 

Harry, I was answering a bit too fast.
Did your Scope do the *same* thing? 
Bass boost ?

JH.




I worked for hours before
> noticing it was lying to me. I had to disassemble it and
> I guess I made a bad connection in the input amplifier 
> better. Now it works OK.
> 
> H^) harry
> 
> "JH." wrote:
> > 
> > So I'm building this quadrature VCO, using discrete OTAs and extra fast
> > opamps,
> > and test it with my scope in xy mode.
> > 
> > Perfect and smooth circle from 150Hz to 25kHz.
> > Below 150 hz, it becomes slightly elliptical.
> > At 5 Hz, the difference between the two axes is 10%.
> > 
> > I'm looking everywhere in the circuit.
> > Can't understand it.
> > I measure the two amplitudes at 150Hz with a good RMS voltmeter.
> > Exactly identical.
> > Measuring AC at 5Hz with the DVM doesn't work, of course.
> > But by then, I suspect my circuit to be ok, and the scope being
> > wrong, already.
> > 
> > Finally I do what I should have done right from the start: Swap
> > the two channels, and voila: The same elliptical shape as before.
> > I'm glad - the VCO seems ok then.
> > 
> > But what kind of misbehaviour of the scope is this ??
> > Both channels set to DC, of course. And running 0.1 Hz also
> > works (same elliptical shape), so it *is* DC coupled.
> > And both channels track so nicely above 150Hz.
> > Seems one channel has a slight "bass boost".
> > Stupid.
> > 
> > JH.
> > 
> > PS: QVCO circuit coming soon.
> > Uses discrete  linearised OTAs with 2 x MAT-02 + SSM2220 + 2SK170 + BC308A
> > each,
> > and AD8620 for the integrator
> > and 3 x AD633 + TL071 for amplitude stabilisation.
> > My most dopferising-proof circuit so far. (8->)
> 
> 




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