[sdiy] ethics of suppliers/rant

[laxt57 at aol.com]

 Hi Harry
  If I may ask how long one waits before complaining? 
 Three months?
 Six months?
 A year?
  I do understand that most of the suppliers are hobbyist much
 the same as me. That deliveries may be slow. That tracking of
 purchases maybe impossible or very difficult at least. 
 When emails go unanswered for days, weeks, months I assume
 that that suppler has some problem. It takes only about one
 minute to return a email.
  What has time on the list have to do with it?
 Either you are a good trader or you are not.
  Service to the synth-diy community? I think not!
 Jeri
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: harrybissell <harrybissell at prodigy.net>
To: Michael Ruberto <frankentron at hotmail.com>
Cc: Laxt57 at aol.com; synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
Sent: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:56:07 -0400
Subject: Re: [sdiy] ethics of suppliers/rant


I have had some 'slow' transactions but have not been out-an-out
burnt by a s-diy listmember.

I find that sometimes the attitude of the buyer can be a determining
factor. I don't know this is true in any particular case, but it seems that
(more than once) the ones to shout the loudest were the last to be satisfied.

I think there is some effect in how long the person has been on the list as
well.
Long time members have their own honor to uphold.  I have sent checks to some
for 'four figures' and not been worried.

I have sold some boards to listmembers as well, just a few.  I would consider
myself
a 'slow shipper' so I have no complaints against anyone else.

The 'one' time I was less than satisfied was from an AH transaction, and even
then
the seller was not a 'bad trader'.   I bought an item expecting it to be in
better
condition than it was.  But as I described, maybe I over-bid. Live and learn.

In some cases, people consider someone they sent money to a 'business' rather
than
a friend helping them out.  My example of THAT one would be EFM.  TomG sells
his boards as a way to maintain his own hobby...  Its a service to the community
to
sell them so cheap.  Then people want to know why they can't track orders on
line...

SH!T ... have you guys ever bought anything from Newark ???

(btw... I got the new Newark catalog in the mail.  I glanced through it for
about
fifteen minutes. I looked for 'potentiometers' and found only the real expensive
>$50
stuff.  Seems they considered Bourns to be 'panel controls'.   After the brief
look I gave it to one of the software kids to demonstrate his 'telephone book
ripping' skills.  Woah
what a terrible testamony for a retailer !!!)

H^) harry

Michael Ruberto wrote:

> I too have had a small handful of questionable experiences with this sort of
> thing, but maybe I am lucky because most transactions I've had through this
> list have been good. The list has also provided some very agreeable and fair
> trading partners.
> I admit the number of things I did sell to list peeps can be counted on 1
> hand. But for what it's worth, I still support the buyers of every item I
> have sold here.
>
> There's a bad apple in every bunch, live and learn.
>
> M. A. Ruberto
>
> >From: Laxt57 at aol.com
> >To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> >Subject: [sdiy] ethics of suppliers/rant
> >Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:56:46 EDT
> >
> >Hi To All
> >  About a year ago I found myself interested in synth stuff after
> >a long period of pursuing a real career (medical electronics)
> >To save time and design work I decided to buy pcbs and other
> >selected items from people off this list. Big mistakes on my part!
> >After about a dozen or so transaction I have found the clear
> >majority to have ended in simple fraud. Or at the very least
> >a complete arrogant and uncaring dishonest attitude.
> >Is it just me? Does anyone else here have this experience?
> >What is it about this list? I am perplexed. Also believe me when
> >I say it is not really the money I have lost. It is the pain in the
> >ass about it all! I have made a pact with a friend to slap me really
> >hard if I have the urge to buy from the synth-diy group.
> >I now understand the synth-diy idea, that is I must design and
> >fabricate anything I want. I can do that, progress is just slow due
> >to limited time on my part. I will do all future projects myself.
> >  Having said all that let me just say that the above rant does not
> >include elby designs. Thanks Laurie for being such  a reputable business
> >person.
> >  If anyone wants a list of recommended suppliers drop me a line.
> >Jeri
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