[sdiy] OTA book on eBay

[James Patchell]

At 02:13 AM 10/13/2005 +0100, Fiercefish wrote:
>Tim, I believe that you are missing my point:

         Welcome to the Internet :-) ... My observation is that most of the 
flame wars here get started because people seem to not understand what 
others are saying...

         I got what you were saying...and in general...I agree...many 
people create their own problems, be they in the right or wrong...by either 
over reacting, or not acting at all.

         Guess I will have to put my flame proof suit on now as well.

> >Many would gladly buy the book legally if it were available and not even
> >entertain buying an unauthorised copy, yet the author neither makes the book
> >available for sale from a third party, or sells it himself or even puts it
> >in the public domain - all of which would take the market away from the 
> copy
> >guy.
>
>What?!? Are you actually saying that the 'copy guy' has a right to copy 
>and sell someone else's work simply because the author doesn't want to 
>release it? The copy guy is selling someone else's property! He does NOT 
>have the right to market those goods, no matter what the author's reason 
>for not releasing them! I don't see how you can possibly justify your 
>position. It's like teaching our children "It's not right to 
>steal...UNLESS it's something you really want and the person who owns it 
>won't give it to you."
>
>No, I am not saying he has a right, what I'm saying is there is clearly a 
>demand for the book and the author (for whatever reason) is choosing not 
>to fulfil the demand, and also by making the book available he would 
>diminish the profits of the copy guy. People will steal if they are that 
>way inclined and there really is no stopping it, its not right AND I AM 
>NOT CONDONING IT but it happens, as the copyright owner its one thing to 
>be pissed that a product (music, words, whatever) that is readily 
>available through legal means is being exploited, its another to be pissed 
>that a work which is not available is being exploited WHEN YOU HAVE THE 
>MEANS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT OTHER THAN PRECISELY NOTHING! "Spitting the 
>dummy" is not really going to achieve anything for the author other than 
>affect his future profits (through not releasing future works as was 
>stated) WHERE IS THE SENSE IN THAT??
>
>WTF, seems kind of a spoilt brat attitude to me, because even if there
> >is a reason why the author can't undertake the sales himself surely he 
> could
> >licence it to some third party, no?
> >
> >Maybe I am missing something, I would be interested in hearing other
> >opinions.
> >
> >FF
>
>
>Maybe the author is just too busy right now. Maybe he just wants to wait a 
>while. Maybe he's burned out and doesn't know what he wants to do. MAYBE 
>he's just tired of working really hard on something, just to see other 
>people copy it and sell it for their own profit. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE 
>FACT THAT NO ONE BUT THE AUTHOR HAS A RIGHT TO SELL THIS MATERIAL.
>
>Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. And so why not then take action against this 
>guy and slap it on ebay himself, christ the hard work is done, sell it as 
>an ebook, whatever, sure beats whingeing and doing sweet FA.
>
>
>Let's try to put the 'shoe on the other foot.' How would you feel if you 
>saw someone else selling (and profiting from) something you had created? 
>ESPECIALLY if you had copyrighted the work. Please don't tell me "I would 
>wish them well and let them do whatever they want with my work" because we 
>all know that's hogwash.
>
>This has happened to me BIG TIME, no I did not wish them well, but I tell 
>you what I did not do, I didn't say "oh well fuck it, my work has been 
>bootlegged, I'm going to sell all my synths and give up" because if I did 
>the only person I'd be harming is me.
>
>FF
>
>
>
>
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         -Jim
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