SV: Re: SV: Re: [sdiy] Chip prices today and what about tomorrow?

[karl dalen]

Debating time!

--- Rainer Buchty <rainer at buchty.net> skrev:

> On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, karl dalen wrote:
> 
> >:Large Indian consulting firm opens its doors in scandinavia,
> >:rent a engineer for "10euro" a hour!!
> >
> >I emideately called them up,and yes they can provide
> >me with "any" type of electronics engineer for 10euro
> >a hour, fpga, semi, you name it !
> >
> >Soo folks, time to do something else i suppose!
 
> What, of course, is not included in those EUR10/h is increased 
> communication effort for 
> 	+ you explaining the guy at your local office what you want

That is what i always have to do to any of the consultants have
been involved with, its included in the 10euro! Besides there was
never any "local guy", or "middleman", it was always the "enginer"
in the same rom as us employees! 

> 	+ him explaining the guy in India what he thinks you want

The guy in india are not in india ,hes in sweden in the local office!
That is, he's in the chair nex to me holding my hand! ;-)

> 	+ you explaining the guy at your local office why the delivered
> 	  product is not what you wanted.

Se above!
Dont agree to that, you are to pessimistic, i
have quite good experience from many freelancers.
(well i do have dreadful experiences to!) 

> 	+ him explaining the guy in India again what he things you want
> 	+ ...and so on

Se two aboves!

> 	+ explaining your customer, why it takes so fscking long

Not if im the customer!

> 	+ soothing your customer

If im the customer i dont sooth my self! :-)

> 	+ promising your customer that the product really will be ready 
> 	  and do what he expects it to do

Im the customer!

> 	+ losing the project and eventually getting sued

Im the customer and i would like to se my self to sue myself!
You are to darn pessimistic about freelancers!

> 	+ trying to get your money back from that outsource company

A majority of companies outsource, small aswell as large!
 
> That kind of game might work if you're a big consultant company and plan 
> to screw up something like the German road toll system, but not for the 
> average contractor.

Have you ever heard about "clause's" in a time limited work contract?
In sweden the vast majority of consultants are out at the contractors
to do the work not farting around in a local office!

I dont agree to your general dissing of freelancers Rainer,
these days the market are more or less a meat/brain shop!
The art in engineering are almost gone!

KD