[sdiy] Future SYNTH-DIY

[Peter]

I just hope they won't ban the lead in our (radioactivity) laboratory.... ;)

P.

(OT, I know, but hey, it's about...lead)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "karl dalen" <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>
To: "Rainer Buchty" <rainer at buchty.net>; "Richard Wentk" 
<richard at skydancer.com>
Cc: <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Future SYNTH-DIY


>
> --- Rainer Buchty <rainer at buchty.net> skrev::
>> > I thought the issue was landfill?
>>
>> Yes, I know. But that reason is plain bullshit to me.
>>
>> (1) Here, it is not allowed to dump electronics into the normal
>> household dumpster. You might not even put it in the recycling bin.
>> Instead, you bring it to the nearest recycling center.
>>
>> If *they* put it in a landfill, sorry, but then there's something really
>> wrong here.
>>
>> (2) Even *if* you put it in the recycling bin -- if the recycling
>> company puts it in a landfill, then there's also something really wrong
>> here.
>>
>> (3) And if it's put into the waste bucket, it usually gets burned. We
>> just don't have the space for landfills... In that case the fumes get
>> filtered and the ashes stored away.
>>
>> In any case, I just don't see the scenario happening, that electronic
>> waste ends up in landfills. 20 years ago, maybe. But we've been severely
>> eco-brainwashed (in Germany) so that even I feel really bad if I have to
>> throw something into the wastebucket and *not* the biowaste/compost,
>> glass, metal, paper, or plastics recycling bins.
>>
>> > A lot of electronics end up in landfill
>>
>> Sorry to say, but that is then a problem of proper waste disposal. There
>> is more to waste disposal than just collecting and burying it somewhere
>> in the woods.
>>
>> There are fully automatic machines *for years* which just take *any*
>> sort of ordinary household waste and pick out the recycleable material.
>> Hardly any human control required...
>>
>> If they want to ensure that the vendors (well, make that "the
>> customers") are paying, then they should just add a fee (like the "green
>> point" we have in Germany which adds 1ct per item and ensures, that the
>> stuff gets buried somewhere in France, erm, properly recycled I wanted
>> to say...) ... But what they are doing now is just ruining small
>> business.
>>
>> OTOH, it seems to be the very intent of European legislature to wipe out
>> small business and clear the market for just big players.
>>
>> >I think that's what I meant about the death of Synth DIY. This is a
>> >major pain for hobbyists, but it's potentially lethal for small-scale
>> >companies like Doepfer and Moog and the rest.
>>
>> Oh, easy thing. Just don't sell to EU anymore... Or only do B2B.
>>
>> Regarding Doepfer and Moog -- they are already big enough to withstand
>> the RoHS impact. But any newcomer will have a truly bad time, I guess.
>
> Not neccerily, as long as components get led free all
> solder processes also turn into lead free.
>
> ROHS directive is not like  that there will be an Adolf H
> standing at your door step next year at a certain date and
> put a bullet trough your but, if you hapends to have
> some lead lying around your apartement!
>
> Read the directive and you will se that you can manufacture
> with lead well beyond the directive date. All they want is
> that you tell them that you are in the "progress" of shifting
> phasing  out your lead stuff, even if your a small company!
>
> The ROhS directive is just a futher development of a on going process
> to make this planet a healthier place, so where is the fault in that?
>
> ROhS is not only about lead free electronics its intent is lead free
> "manythings" such as gasoline, lead free hunting, rifle ammo,
> lead free car weel balancing , led free fhising, tackles, etc etc.
>
> Reg
> KD
>
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